Remember, if someone asks you if you verbally agreed to 24k, you say NO. You verbally agreed to 42k and have the paperwork to match. There is no discrepancy.
I would be really worried that they’ll get me somehow over this and fuck me up legally.
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Exactly, accounts signed off on this, so clearly it’s not crazy. Who knows maybe they’re thinking “Wow I can’t believe we got this person for only 42”
Wouldn’t matter if they did. Unless you agree to the pay cut, you’re getting the written amount. If they insist it’s supposed to be 24k, stay quiet on it. Especially if they ask what you were offered. They can’t force you to tell them, and the right to silence is one of those that you get regardless of who you are or where you’re from.
If they try to change your wage, or fire you for not accepting the correction, that would be breach of contract or at least wrongful termination at least… and that turns into a sizable settlement.
Generally you only have a right to silence in self incrimination, just answering if the agreement was 24 or 42 likely wouldn’t apply.
In a court of law, for sure. But for discussion between an employee and boss, I don’t think that works the same way. I don’t think your boss would have the right to compel speech out of you like that.
Unless it works differently in the UK?
Well, nobody can force you to speak, that’s something you’ll have to do willingly. So IMO, the right to silence is one of the things that is universal to existence, regardless of law.
Yes, but in a civil case this may turn the favours against you. Even though you may not incriminate yourself, the judge may rule for the other party, as there is no burden of proof, but only of probability.
Of course, a paper contract especially ruling 42k in black and white will be of more weight than a verbal contract.
Fair enough.
Not saying a word…but posting it to the world.
As someone on the receiving end of this, it may not pan out for you. I was verbally told I was getting a raise, then my paychecks showed I got a larger raise. I thought nothing of it and enjoyed the extra money, thinking of myself as a hard worker who was worth the extra.
Months later, someone noticed the discrepancy. Queue the company informing me that the overpayment will be taken in one lump sum from my next paycheck, which would have made me unable to make rent. I convinced them to spread the repayment across as many checks as they had overpaid, but that was a pretty miserable experience to say the least.
Can’t really happen here, since the contract had the twisted numbers as well. So they have that amount in writing with signatures and all.
I think in some cases you could get fucked if it can be shown that it’s an obvious mistake
I mean, if you switch this around so it’s the business paying less then people here would be going irate if the business just said “well we are paying what the contract states”. I get it, people hate work. But that doesn’t mean you get to screw your employer.
It says it right there in the contract. If you sign shit without reading it as the employer, and have been paying it for 9 months, that’s on you.
It would be another thing if it was immediately fixed but in either case, be it the employee or employer, if you’ve been doing it 9 months then that’s on you. (If an employee had been getting underpaid - but still a legal amount - and didn’t say anything for 9 months, I also think that’s on them). Gotta read contracts folks.
How is that delicious? That’s still fucking nothing.
In the event that they do require the employee to pay it all back, what I would have done was try to make the original wage work on the budget and stash the other £18k into low risk index funds to get some dividends and increased return. That way if paying it back were necessary, you’d at least make some money from the excess capital.
If the paperwork says £42k then not much the company could possibly argue.
True. Legally binding contacts definitely supersede their vocal claims to the contrary.
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