• BorgDrone@lemmy.one
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    1 year ago

    Lightning is/was actually pretty great. Also remember that it was introduced before USB-C even existed.

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      1 year ago

      I think the problem is that between lightning cables and USB-C, one is made by an asshole company who wants you to use it for your phone and literally nothing else, and one is useful for your phone and literally everything else.

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        1 year ago

        USB-C wasn’t really useful for anything when Lightning was introduced, on account of it not even existing as a spec, let alone actual hardware, until 2 years later.

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        1 year ago

        You can always tell the Apple fans, can’t you? This cable was hated by everyone when it came out because it broke everyones docks.

        It also wasnt much faster, in fact, I’m almost positive the first phones were throttled, not unlike the new iPhone’s with type c.

  • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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    1 year ago

    I’m pro USB C all the way, but I definitely appreciated the lightning connector. It’s smaller, fewer things to go wrong with it, less delicate… so to speak… at least the female side seems to be from my experience. The male side isn’t half bad either, but the cables apple used for their USB to lightning wires was basically trash. Every time I witnessed someone with a bad iPhone charging cable, the connector was generally fine and the wire was torn to shreds.

    The biggest weakness of the standard was that it was stuck on USB 2.0. Beyond that it was pretty good.

    I still like USB C more, both for speed and for how ubiquitous it is; but, being fair to lightning here, the center area were the pins are is a failure point, one wrong move and it’s toast. Granted it’s nestled in there pretty good and the chances of that actually happening is pretty small, but lightning doesn’t have this issue.

    Lightning is far from perfect, but they did a good job… for the time. Right now the only benefit to lightning is twofold, it’s everywhere, and the connectors basically never broke with normal use. At the time micro-B was horribly fragile. C is way better than micro-B was, but I still think that lightning has the crown for durability IMO.

    With all that being said, USB C all the things. Lightning was a shining example of a better way, and hopefully we learned from that. I don’t know what comes after USB C, but I hope the improvements are significant. It will be a while before C goes anywhere though.

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      1 year ago

      Possibly, but Apple’s shitty version of the cable basically made it break more on the actual cable than the connector. It seems that this may be fixed with usb c because of the thicker cable though.

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    1 year ago

    Lightning was significantly ahead of the competition when it came out in 2012. Micro-USB is a terrible collection of ports. C came out two years later though, and quickly surpassed Lightning in almost every way.

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      1 year ago

      The amount of USB type ports I’ve seen where the ‘tongue’ has been absolutely mangled is mind boggling — an issue that Lightning completely bypassed.

      For example, I’m repairing some kids PS5 and both back USB ports have had their pins twisted and the plastic snapped off. The HDMI port pins are lifting from the mainboard and the front of the unit is scratched to high hell. I see some of the worst treated tech at my job, and those plastic bits get damaged a lot. While Apple needed to move to USB-C six years ago with the iPhone X, I will respect Lightning for this one thing.

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        1 year ago

        All cables have issues. One thing I see often only with iPhone cables are they’re always falling apart, especially the outer parts near the end.

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    1 year ago

    It WAS a good cable about 6 years ago when even flagship phones still used micro USB. I would have killed for lightning on my old android phone. However, usb c just takes the cake, every cake. It has its own problems but the tradeoffs are miniscule compared to lightning.

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    1 year ago

    Yes, Lightning was better than MicroUSB but by now I hope we can all agree, that it has overstayed its welcome

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      When apple changed to lightning it was in the middle of the accessory hype where there were loads of accessories using the 30-pin. People where outraged because they could no longer use any of their accessories. Apple then commited to lightning for 10 years in order to sooth the public image. This was 11 years ago, and they didn’t switch last year to cut costs, but I’d argue it only overstayed it’s welcome for a year.

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    1 year ago

    i am happy the standard has won but tbh, i prefer the lightning type of connector (male). if only Apple standardized this instead of USB-C which is far more fragile.

    but as I am not going to buy an iphone anytime soon , this is a non-news to me. :)

  • InvaderDJ@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Lightning was a good cable. It’s just that Apple didn’t improve it any for a decade and never opened it up so it could have been a standard.

    It’s smaller and more durable. It’s just slow and proprietary.

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    1 year ago

    Inb4 apple places a chip in the cable that only handshakes with apple devices?

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      1 year ago

      It’s the ports, they force USB2.0 speeds (same as lightning) unless you get the Pro (this is unverified)

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        1 year ago

        Wait so if it’s not apple’s cable you’re throttled to usb 2.0 speeds?