• TokyoMonsterTrucker@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 year ago

    The moron who made this meme did it on a computer that requires literally thousands of innovations that are a direct, replicable product of the scientific method. It is the most powerful philosophical system on the planet, despite its sloppiest practitioners, and it doesn’t require the belief of fucking idiots to work.

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      1 year ago

      Computers are feats of engineering, which is related but distinct from science and the scientific method. Vastly overstating what the scientific method is for isn’t helpful.

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      1 year ago

      Yeah, label everyone left of Bernie Sanders a “Right Winger” so you don’t have to think and have interactions with people that think differently than you.

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      im not antivaxx. although the covid one imo has not been tested nearly enough, at least back when they were shilling it. i believe in vaccines dont get me wrong, though people should be given the choice to not.

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        Yeah, but the decision on if vaccines are mandatory or not is a decision made by politicians and not scientists… the scientists only provide the data, its the politicians job to interpret it and make decisions.

        Also, I hate this claim of “not tested enough”. They were tested enough, and even if, we just didn’t have the time to wait for more thorough testing, because people were dying left and right because of covid. Don’t you remember the mass graves in New York?

      • TokyoMonsterTrucker@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        1 year ago

        Schrodinger’s Conservative Asshole:

        Option A: the cat thinks you’re witty and accurate! –>Thank you, I am an observant and urbane man of the world

        Option B: the cat thinks you’re an offensive and deeply wrong asshole! –> Jeez, you upright jerks just can’t take a funny joke

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          jokes are also subjective. i guess i misjudged this audience as having critical thinking skills

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            I think you’ve got a very warped and incorrect interpretation of “critical thinking” in this context.

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    This is not how science and the scientific method is working!

    There are flaws in the scientific method and the peer Review. Mostly that it is done by humans.

    However you should use evidence and experiments everybody can redo to base your argument on.

    Also everything that is currently a fact may be disproven by the next scientific break through.

    To err is human. Not changing your mind given obvious evidence is stupid.

    Unfortunately we rarely have obvious evidence for sth.

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    There’s a nuanced view to be made somewhere in here, but this ain’t it. We do have a reproducibility crisis because everyone wants to do a new study instead of retesting to verify old results. And there are some worries about post hoc statistical analysis. But this meme just sounds like general skepticism about science.

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    I’m not. I think we need less ideas. Thinking makes me sad. Why do I need to innovate or change anything? Because capital wants it done? I was probably happier with a motorola razr than my android phone.

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    Well, COVID proved that “science” is as bought off as politicians.

    We should be able to question everything, especially if push back is seen in the MSM and censorship is used to stop the counter to the mainstream.

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        Didn’t you read the meme? He gets offended when you ask for evidence , his theories are so stupid he is the only who believes on them.

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        For fauci/the cdc:

        • The whole mask are useless lie is probably the big one.
        • There’s also the immediate dismissal of lab leak theories.
        • Continuing to recommend cloth masks after studies showed they were either useless or became saturated and may exacerbate spread.

        For state actions:

        • Lockdowns were never part of the recommended approach, that wasn’t a scientific recommendation.
        • There were the arbitrary rules like wearing a mask in a restaurant unless you were sitting that had no science behind them.
        • There were rules like no motorized boats, but non motorized is acceptable.
        • Closing schools despite most experts citing the long term affects harming development, also little evidence that kids were at any significant risk from covid.
        • Classifying tents with walls and igloos as outdoors to avoid mask restrictions.
        • Keeping mask rules while outdoors for well after it was established there’s basically 0 chance of outdoor spread for covid.

        More generally:

        • The obsession with surface cleaning despite evidence for surface transmission being nearly impossible being established very early.
        • Criticizing anti mask protests for not being safe, but completely ignoring the same issue with blm protests.
        • the overwhelming save all lives at all costs advocacy, which isn’t even policy in normal times.
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        Well, depends on what you believe.

        The people I started to watch and learn from are more careful in what they belive from now on.

        We know that their is a military induatrial complex, which means the more wars the better the profits.

        While the pharma complex also, to a degree, has certain ways of doing things, to keep it simple.

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            Block everyone you don’t agree with, that is a great way to learn of the real world.

            That is what the working class struggle needs, more dividing between ourselves.

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      yep. sad so many sheep see someone questioning the system and downvote without thinking

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        Jesus Christ you’re an npc. I feel like I could write an AHK script that mimics you exactly and I’m not eveb a coder.