What y’all talking about?
Doesn’t the prefix “en” in enshittification mean “more of”/“increasing”?
Because “Windows is even more shit” makes perfect sense to me.
It’s been less shit at running games than Linux for… Well, always?
Downvote all you want, I’ve seen what makes you cheer.
So long as the game in question doesn’t block you for running linux (fortnight, for instance), then no, you are absolutely wrong. I get much better game performance on Arch Linux cachyos kernel than i do on windows 10. Every single time.
spasms due to rage
At least the future is looking good with Valve supporting the cause
Cry all you want. Gaming performance on Linux is usually better.
It’s subjective, but I clearly remember saying Windows couldn’t get any worse around the time that (Microsoft was claiming that) Internet Explorer was irrevocably integrated with Windows 98.
Never believe it when someone says such-and-such can’t get any worse. Somehow it always can.
You are likely not old enough to remember windows 2000. It had the NT kernel and did nothing more than expected. It got out of your way so you could do work.
There have been some improvements over the years, but Microsoft’s goals for windows changed after that, which is when enshitification started.
XP was like 2K, but with fancy plastic appearance and some unneeded things.
I have fond memories of reading Star Wars books in Notepad, in plain text (or RTF containing only text), in some font like Fixedsys, I think, black on white, at night. Ironically my eyesight didn’t get much worse then.
XP was nice enough.
98SE, 2000, XP (Service Pack 3) and 7 were Windows at their peak.
Windows 8 and 8.1 were screwed by Microsoft’s insistence at creating a more mobile-friendly OS, when the Metro menu was just bad for the desktop user experience. A lot of disgruntled 8/8.1 users did flock to 10 because having the Start menu back was seen as a compromise to having forced telemetry tracking in your OS.
As for Windows 11, it’s getting super shit. Recall AI is being baked into the OS, which will effectively allow Microsoft to snoop and capture data on your computer activity. They claim to not capture sensitive info like bank details or credit card numbers, but I think that’s been proven wrong.
Also, 11 is hardly an upgrade feature-wise, yet requires a significantly beefier PC, and was released at a time when the world was still going through a significant semiconductor shortage.
The only real hurdle for widespread Linux adoption is anti-cheat support. That, and either getting Linux versions of industry standard software (Microsoft 365, Adobe CS, 3DS Max, etc) or decent support through Wine/Proton.
That, and either getting Linux versions of industry standard software (Microsoft 365, Adobe CS, 3DS Max, etc) or decent support through Wine/Proton.
You won’t. Industry doesn’t want to waste money to port such enormous legacy codebases to Linux, when most people still run Windows.
Windows has to become a minority OS first.
And anti-cheat - I don’t like it, but it seems there will be working kernel-level anticheats for Linux.
You forgot hardware support, nice that it seems not an issue for some people today, but Linux hardware support is still not there. Drivers for Windows are made by manufacturers, drivers for Linux are often made by Linux developers.
The way you handle “industry standard software” is you make other software that is better. Do what Blender did. Thing is, for some reason a lot of developers especially of the old projects like GIMP actively avoid doing so.
I honestly liked 8.1 quite a bit - once I installed Classic Shell to not have to deal with the new UI. A first year usability student could have foreseen the massive issues trying to weld a touch screen UI and a traditional desktop metaphor would raise, but Microsoft for some reason were completely pig headed about making it work. It didn’t. It can’t. You can not staple two completely different UI paradigms together and have it work smoothly. Other than that, 8.1 was remarkably good experience for me. It felt really snappy under the hood. Good OS brought down by hubris. Well, good for a Windows release, at least. Use Linux.
My understanding was it used to be windows was decent enough, whilst Linux was an upgrade for those who valued freedom.
Now Linux is quickly going from ‘upgrade’ to ‘only sensible option.’
That’s where I’m at. LMDE is what my desktop will run soon.
Yep and that happened right about when windows XP came out.
XP was hated when it came out, but it wasn’t that bad. Then Vista and 7 happened. Then it got worse.
Windows 7 was the last good a Windows
People hated on 7 and said the same thing about XP.
Aka enshittification
Slow as all get out though. I ran it in a VM just for fun and lacks the performance improvements of newer Windows.
Windows 10 was great without the bloatware and telemetry that was slowly added to it. At first it was only a small amount that could easily be removed with a script.
Nah man. Windows 10 was full of telemetry from day 1. It was the first version of Windows that hid away the ability to even use a local-only login, trying to push every user onto a MS account for that sweet tracking and advertising dollar.
They even gave the OS away for free - absolutely unthinkable to 90s/2000s era Microsoft, now why would that have changed?
Pushing the users to their cloud offerings for those that they can tempt, and tracking, profiling, advertising for every user. From conception.
Naw, Windows 2000 was legit. Everything after that was shit.
Yes, but now there is blood in the poop.
And it is a dark red.
3.11 was pretty good. After that it’s been a mixed bag. A bag of shit, but mixed.
The moment they removed hotdog theme was the moment it started to fail
It was better than Linux up until windows 7, and it was objectively more compatible with games until Steam Deck.
Isn’t windows more compatible with most games? Very few are Linux native, and most games require a bit of compatibility troubleshooting to get working properly in my experience.
“Down” was awesome.
3.11? Which couldn’t even network properly?
I liked XP. Never had any issues with it and things mostly made sense
I remember having a bit of fun playing things like Stunt Car Racer on MS-DOS back in the early 90s for a few days. Yeah, that’s about it. That’s the best I can do even when I’m trying to be charitable. As soon as I owned my first computer (late 90s) I bought a Linux magazine, installed a distro from a cover CD-ROM, and never looked back.
Windows 2000 wasn’t bad.
That was probably my favorite version. It’s when the integrated the NT kernel into the regular consumer desktop windows iirc, which led to XP.
It did the job pretty well. And I’m sure even Windows 11 is good enough for most. But these days using even windows 10 after being used to Linux is painful.
Yes, yes it has.
