Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. advocated for the measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) vaccine during a visit to West Texas on Sunday to comfort two families whose children died of the disease.

https://archive.ph/hIrAC

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    RFK and the goons have fired medical doctors at the FDA this week because they would not say that MMR vaccine caused autism. Don’t believe these clowns have changed their story. This is just more lies and distractions.

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      Not only has there never been a link shown between autism and vaccines. Autism is genetic. Someone is born autistic. It’s not a disease you can contract later in life. From vaccines or anywhere else. Which makes the claim all the more dubious.

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    Oh, is he just going to pretend that he hasn’t been spearheading a crusade against vaccines for literal decades?

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      Yes. This is called lying. This is what these people have been doing for a while now. I don’t think this will change soon.

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        I think he actually thinks the things he says, and is just plain nuts. I don’t get the impression rfk doesn’t care about people deep down like I do with most of them. I think he’s genuinely profoundly stupid.

        Cynicism is not really correct here. Maybe if you turn one half of one degree and see literally anything else going on right now, but not here.

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    He is just saying that any vaccine created since Jenny McCarthy got up to speed on Andrew Wakefield’s nonsense is bad.

    All of those other vaccines that did so much good when he was young are fine.

    If it didn’t come out of “the good old days” of when these people were in their prime it is some liberal conspiracy after all. /s

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    He didn’t seem to care when he got dozens of kids killed by measles in American Samoa, but now that it’s white kids in the metropole he changes his tune…

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    Most effective is to get a vaccine before being exposed to Measles ffs.

    Why do you think we give herpes vaccines to pre-teens? It’s not because we are expecting them to be sexually active, it’s because it works better before they are exposed.

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      Just a minor correction: There is no herpes vaccine. It’s the HPV vaccine you’re thinking of.

      Would be nice to get a herpes vaccine, but they’re not there yet.

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        I wonder if the brain drain from the US will ultimately get us there faster. The EU has less cultural stigma about funding STI vax research, and now they’re going to get the people who can do it.

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            Maybe. Keeps me sane.

            I’ll say that Trump is providing an opportunity if we can grab it. There was a big liberal world order where it was hard to replace systems that were some combination of outdated and/or cruel, because what they do was too important. A bunch of those have been tossed in a woodchipper already, and Trump ain’t done yet. If we can rebuild an effective left wing movement that takes real power, then we have an easier path to remaking those systems in a way that benefits a greater number of people.

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    Ah now that shit might get really serious really quick you’re changing your stance? Huh Bobby? I must say I’m a little surprise. You didnt do that the last time you did this.

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          I doubt that the threat of suing the government would make him change; after all, it won’t be paid out of his pocket. But if the families were being inundated by offers of attorneys to represent them in a civil suit against RFK Jr himself…

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        It takes awhile to get used to enacting policy that rapidly and publicly kills children.

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            And that’s why i take Fuckitol. Two pills in the morning, followed by a gallon of bathtub gin, and you’ll sleep like a baby.

            Did climate change just causet the fourteenth tornado this week to eat your last pickup? Fuckitol. Little Jimmy, your last of a brood of 17 just got gunned down in his pre-k Starbucks job? Fuckitol. Slow creep of fascism destroying civilization? Fuckitol.

            Tell your doctor Fuckitol is right for you!

            some side effects include sudden spleen rupture, children born with heads of golden retrievers, the condition known as “hotdog fingers,” hearing the voices of the Broadway show Cats from midnight to 6am daily. Don’t take Fuckitol of you are or may become pregnant, are bipedal, are carbon based or require oxygen at any point during your life cycle.

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    Hahahahahahaha have fun with that, Texas, and other antivax-friendly states. I’m out of sympathy. You shit your bed, now lie in it.

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      The problem isn’t with the idiots who voted for it though. The problem is that the children, you know the innocent ones who can’t make decisions, are the ones who get to suffer. As are the people around the idiots who have weaker immune systems, and who may have not voted for the stupid or may just be too old and/or vulnerable. I love watching the actual idiots get their comeuppance, but I hate seeing innocent people suffer for their arrogant selfishness.

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        Can I add to this.

        There’s a lot of people that aren’t able to get the vaccine who otherwise would be vaccinated.

        Immunocompromised, allergy to MMR, chemo, steroids and other meds. The list goes on. These people are now in danger of suffering from hearing loss, brain damage, going blind, lung damage, learning disabilities seizures…and death.

        All because Tinfoil Totin Tammy wants to be a Facebook Pharma Fighter but wound up putting the “no” in immunology” instead.

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            Same. Almost died from MMR vaccine as a child. I live in a blue state so I’m not terribly worried, but I may become a test case in avoiding death from this shit before too long. Hope they get it under control and you had your wife never have to experience measles.

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        I know. I’m still out of sympathy. They’re gonna be indoctrinated by their parents and will continue being the proximate (and yes, I know that’s not the root) cause of the problem. Sometimes the symptoms need to be addressed before the underlying issues are.

        I’m on a medication that suppresses my immune system. I know precisely what the dangers are here.

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          I disagree. I’m glad people like my brother’s friend kept trying to reach me when I was still roped into the lies my parents regurgitated from the Republicans and ultra wealthy. It takes effort to get through that wall and reach the person. For me, it was pointing out all the lies I was being a mouthpiece to and checked for myself. He wasn’t mad, or condescending, and through his patience I realized all the shit my parents believed were basically all bullshit.

          As for this comment, I get the sentiment behind it, but abandoning these youth as they parrot their parents’, just prove what the right says about the others like the Democrat party. I agree that a lot of their parents are long gone through propaganda and a buildup of lead in their brains, but we can get through to youth if we don’t write them off out of the gate.

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        Yeah, that’s literally how evolution works!

        The morons’ kids don’t live to reproduce, otherwise idiocracy reigns.

        In the past the dangerous morons sent their kids to die in war, and the people who stayed behind were the ones who were more peaceful, that’s how civilization happened.

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          That’s not how evolution works. You’re glossing over the whole “nature vs nurture” debate. Antivax stances are very much nurture based, and definitely not an inheritable characteristic. There may be a slight bias due to intelligence, but there is no shortage of stupid people who are just as willing to vaccinate their kids as smart people.

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          In the past the dangerous morons sent their kids to die in war, and the people who stayed behind were the ones who were more peaceful

          Historically, the number of people who have been offered a choice about whether or not their children would participate in a war is vanishingly small compared to those who have not.

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    WOT?! I thought he didn’t recommend vaccines until they were safe! Is this a John Kerry style flip-flop???

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        I agree, but the amount of anti-vax folks who used RFK getting into the government as “proof” vaccines are bad is pretty astonishing. I’m sure they won’t point to him as an example anymore.

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    Did anyone check what the greatest intellectual Joe Rogan thinks of his change of mind?