• Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Politicians from those countries are under enormous Public Opinion pressure to “do something” to Stop Israel (for example, in Britain 500 THOUSAND people demonstrated against the Genocide).

    So the politicians in power do the most innefective “something” imaginable.

    The simplest most surperficial reading of this is: see, they did “something” and even if small “it’s a step forward” - you see a lot of posters here doing that reading.

    An analysis with even just the tiniest bit of depth yields the possibility that, by choosing to do the least effective thing they could do now, they’re diffusing some of that Public Opinion pressure thus delaying the time when the pressure is so big they have to do something that actually hurts Israel, like Sanctions.

    If that is the case, then this action is in fact negative rather than merely meaningless or “a small step forward”, because it gives Israel more time to exterminate Palestinians and steal more of their land - it means more deaths rather than fewer and a worse future (as more of them get dispossessed) rather than a better one.

    Given that all these countries are still sending weapons to Israel, and the UK - which was the initiator of all this - is even running surveillance flights over Gaza and giving the info to Israel, it seems to me that the “it’s a delaying action to give room for Israel to take their Final Solution further” explanation is far more likely than the idea that this is being done with a genuine intent of helping Palestinians.

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    3 months ago

    Still better than Trump smearing the blood of dead Palestinian civilians all over his face as a cheap replacement for his normal clown makeup

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    You’re letting the perfect be the enemy of the good. Should they take no positive steps?

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      Imagine someone robs your house, causes untold damage, takes all your valuables and shoots your wife, your child, and your dog.

      The robbers voluntarily give back the clock you had on the mantelpiece and $20, claiming they feel bad. You get nothing else but those things. The clock is blood-spattered and cracked. But hey, that $20 counts for something, right?

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        Would you rather they kept it?

        This is frankly baffling. Nobody is saying this should be the only thing to be done. Just that it’s a good thing. Is it not a good thing?

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          If it avoids them suffering consequences for the original theft, thus leading them to the same con again and again and again because they always win from it, it’s actually a bad thing.

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          If everything from my house was stolen but I was given a tiny useless token back, no, no that isn’t better than getting nothing at all.

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            Would you rather not get anything because it’s not good enough?? you’re literally letting perfect be in the way of good

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    I really don’t see the point this is trying to make. Like, would it be better if they didn’t recognize it at all?

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      It is RATHER FUCKING LATE. Sure, let’s put together anti-poaching laws for the White Rhino after it’s already extinct in the wild! Now, let’s find other ways to do precisely nothing of any meaningful value while being able to claim moral superiority and that “at least we eventually did something”. Now that the complete obliteration of any meaningful civilisation in the vast majority of occupied Palestine has been completed, and after god-knows-how-many thousands have died of starvation or just being shot like rabid dogs while trying to take the mangled bodies of their children to a hospital, or daring to try to pick up food. Recognising a state which is in exile is precisely as useful to actual Palestinian people as just watching and shrugging your shoulders. It’s just an attempt at performative retroactive unfucking.

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        We all know it’s fucking late, but it makes little sense to complain when someone is finally doing the right thing.
        Better late than never.

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      Imagine if someone punched you over and over again in the face and said, “Sorry, I’ll stop.” You’d be happy that they’d stopped, but you wouldn’t like them or forget, especially because their friend is still currently punching you in the face.

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        UK, France, Canada and Australia are all in the ICC: this mean both Hamas and Netanyahu are wanted criminals if any of these put feet on the ground of these nations.

        Netanyahu would be reasonably safe in China, Russia, USA and Hungary tho.

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      The issue is that its the absolute minimum they could do, while still selling them weapons and running recon. I mean, its not that hard. We all know what genocide looks like. We have parades every year for the men and women who fought against those who would and did do genocide on others. But for reason we are sitting and watching it happen again, and again, and being like “nah, it’ll be fine.”. But 25000 dead kids later, and its not fine. Its pretty fucking far from fine.

      And all of this for what? So some utter cunt in Israel and his nazi cronies can hold on to power? We are supposed to be better than that. We might not be perfect, we might have our own issues that need serious work. But propping up a fucking nazi regime, while actively does genocide in full view of the world?

      Absolute zero balls on any world leaders today. There all absolute pussies, who cant even say the simple truth we all know. Disgusting.

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    What’s with the arm for France? It’s clearly labeled in a different way than everything else in the picture.