• LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Get ready for next 11 months of “BoTh SidEs aRE thE SaME” bullshit.

    If both sides are same, why not vote for pro-genocide corporate shill who is not a rapist, not a traitor, and not a criminal?

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        9 months ago

        Unfortunately the incumbent has a massive advantage. It’s rare for a party to switch to a different candidate when one of theirs already has the seat.

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        9 months ago

        Please name the third party candidate that has a reasonable chance of beating both Trump and Biden.

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          9 months ago

          This is the primary. This is when we should be able to vote for candidates who more closely align with our views. (Like being anti-genocide.)

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            9 months ago

            Primaries are when you vote for a candidate from a specific party. The person above me said to vote third party. You can’t do that in a primary. It was obvious they were talking about the general election.

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          9 months ago

          Both of the people you named commit genocide. Voting for them means you endorse genocide. I fail to see how percentages are relevant here.

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            9 months ago

            The vote is to elect a president. If you are not going to vote for someone who has a chance of winning, what is the point of voting at all?

            I will happily vote for a third party candidate that has a chance of winning. I have asked for a name many times and have yet to be given one.

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              9 months ago

              I live in a state that is not even close to be competitive. Why should I not vote for the Green Party candidate?

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                  9 months ago

                  In my state, the two major parties keep changing the rules to make it harder for other parties to get ballot access. If a party gets a certain number of votes in the general, they can keep their ballot access without needing to jump through a bunch of expensive hoops designed to keep them out. I vote to have more choice in future elections. Because that is all I can vote for.

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                    9 months ago

                    Okay, that is, at least, a reasonable explanation of why to vote third party without having to name a candidate. You’re literally the first person who has done this even though I have asked people who tell me to vote third party for a name for months now.

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              9 months ago

              The Greens have a 99% chance of winning if everyone stops acting like Biden is holding a gun against their heads to prevent them from voting differently.

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                I see, so if something that is almost certainly not going to happen happens, a Green candidate who you have not named has a 99% chance of beating Trump.

                That’s not what I asked. I didn’t ask for special, very unlikely circumstances.

                Name the third party candidate who has a good chance of winning as things stand now. Just give me a name.

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                    Your wild guess percentages based on zero evidence are not a name. You still have not given me a name. Who am I supposed to vote for if you won’t even give me a name?

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                9 months ago

                “candidate X would easily win if everybody voted for them”

                No shit, now who are they and how do you propose convincing people to vote for them?

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        9 months ago

        Low turnout and high degree of votes for independents tend to favor Republicans in USA, and you have heard of their project 2025 right? A program literally designed to be a clone of nazism

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            They are literally telling you what they want to do. They want a republican president above the law and make a permanent legislative and judicial majority which can’t be unseated through elections.

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              If they wanted that they could have done it in 2020 when they controlled everything and Trump was president? We heard this story back then and aside from the looney parade on Jan 6, the Republicans did not try to keep him in power like some god ruler.

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                They tried but couldn’t due to infighting, and because they didn’t have a plan because they didn’t expect to win. Now they have plans. See project 2025 to start with

                They absolutely tried to keep him in power, all the lawsuits and other shenanigans was all about trying to block transfer of power when he lost. They literally tried to rig the vote by damaging the postal service, because they knew democrats would rely more on voting by mail with the pandemic going on. They’re working on gerrymandering state maps to artificially give Republicans more winning districts, giving them a chance to win states where they lost the popular vote.