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    They would for the same reason they use Linux on their Chromebooks, Android phones, Pixel watches, Steam Decks or TrueNAS server. It’s pre-installed. Why do you think that argument is an “excuse” is my question.

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      No one would care if a Chromebook ran Linux, Windows, BeOS, AmigaOS or anything in between. The OS is a means to an end, something that the Linux community constantly forgets. People don’t run an OS, they run software.

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        And how does Linux get software? I was discussing that two comments ago, we’ve now come full circle.

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          Why should software companies release a Linus version of a piece of software? Most don’t bother with MacOS and they own about 20% of the desktop market. Linux is just 3%. They aren’t going to do that out of the goodness of their hearts and this isn’t a small ask, either. Would probably mean a total rewrite. To make matters worse is that Linux community seems to be all about free software, so getting them to actually PAY for something seems near impossible. So where does that leave you?

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            Why should software companies release a Linus version of a piece of software?

            It isn’t about supporting Linux, it’s about supporting the hardware that comes with it on it. The Steam Deck demonstrates plainly that good hardware with Linux on it will receive dev attention. Game developers now talk and brag about “Steam Deck support” (which is actually just Linux support) for every major game release. It’s not an “excuse”, pre-installed Linux does work.

            Most don’t bother with MacOS and they own about 20% of the desktop market. Linux is just 3%.

            I have a hard time believing MacOS is even close to 20%. Hell on Steam Linux users outnumber Mac and the gaming demographic is lower on Linux to begin with. And lack of Mac software support is pretty obviously a result of them (fairly) recently dropping the x86 architecture, so companies have to remake a lot of software for them and it’s not easy.

            I don’t see you proposing any solutions to this problem. So your opinion is Linux just doomed forever? Microsoft owns this market and that’s it, competition isn’t possible and the world has to use their closed source operating system for the rest of time?

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              Works for me. I have zero time to waste on Linux. I know Windows. I use Windows and have few problems with it. I am Average Joe Computer User. You have yet to give me a single reason why I would ever care enough to use Linux other than some “Grrrrr M$ IS BAD” reason. Why should I?

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                What’s wrong with monopolies?
                Why should I value my privacy?
                Why should I use code that is open and freely auditable instead of closed and proprietary?
                Why should I have more ownership of my computer?

                These are the questions you are essentially asking, and while I could write a whole treatise on it I doubt you would change your mind anyway. Enjoy using Windows.

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                  I will enjoy using Windows and the literally limitless software and hardware that it can run. You can enjoy using whatever OS you choose and the incredibly limited options you have in both hardware and software. While you go endlessly tinker with you OS, ill actually use a computer for what it was meant for, and that is running software.

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                    lol why are you such a dick? That last comment was me politely trying to end this convo on good terms. What is this pissing contest all of a sudden?

                    All I ever hear about is how bad Linux users are, then I run into someone like you who is just insufferable because… Why? Someone uses different software than you? What are you, a fucking child? Who cares. Congratulations, a trillion dollar corporation with endless funds made an operating system that can run Photoshop or something. And my distro that is run by volunteers through sheer passion for free software doesn’t. Awesome. I don’t use Photoshop.