I don’t care what the science says! I don’t care about the suffering of others! This offends my capitalist sensibilities that I have never questioned and I’m not about to start thinking too hard about it now just because some hippy libs want to sneak communism in the back door!
I have zero respect for this world view and hope we are able to simply bulldoze it with unstoppable momentum.
Nicely put. I just cannot tell if that is how you feel or your just channeling.
For me, I am divided. On one hand people do nothing unless motivated and needing basic necessities is a powerful motivator. On the other, I am curious as to the most cost effective approach. Plus I would much rather spend money on people getting along then police and armies.
Edit: Just thinking, maybe call me a libertarian socialist. Maybe that is why I am always confused.
I feel it, and I’m channeling. I DO NOT SUPPORT Biden, my vote is not FOR Biden it is for Not Trump. But I know that’s why there are MANY people who will refuse to support Biden. I think these people haven’t quite done the math.
You can have an old, out of touch fuck face who represents MUCH of what is wrong with mainstream American culture and wants to double down on a bunch of it, sustain some of it’s most toxic parts, while allowing for JUST ENOUGH progressive cultural change (especially the sort that doesn’t really change anything) to keep enough of the base engaged with him to keep him (and MOSTLY people like him) in power.
Or you can have a bunch of maniacs who literally want to create Handmaids Tail and are working hard to push us in that exact direction.
Those are the choices. That’s it. Don’t think of it as “Do I support this one or that one?”
Think of it as:
I can push the button for static, toxic status quo, or I can push the button for Handmaids. Not pushing a button is the same as pushing Handmaids. Also, there are a bunch of little green “Feel Good About Yourself And Win A Participation Trophy By Voting For A Third Party Candidate Who Actually Represents Your Actual Values” buttons, but pushing one of them is the same as pushing Handmaids.
If you’re hoping to motivate people to action with the horrifying reality of four more years of Trump (by protest refusing to support Biden)… it’s like headbutting a goat. The goat doesn’t care, or change it’s behavior and it hurts you WAY more than it hurts the goat. In this case, the Right is WAY better organized, unified and prepared to go full fascist then the Left is to get together and demand real change. If you’re unfamiliar with Leonard Leo or the 2025 project, I can point you at some podcasts to give you some nightmare fuel. There’s nothing like them on the Left, no one throwing that kind of money at being that organized to create political and social change on so many different levels.
EDIT; tl;dr: I STRONGLY feel like Biden does not deserve my support, and Gaza is a big part of my reasoning, but a non-vote is too close to a vote for Fascist Hellscape.
I don’t care what the science says! I don’t care about the suffering of others! This offends my capitalist sensibilities that I have never questioned and I’m not about to start thinking too hard about it now just because some hippy libs want to sneak communism in the back door!
I have zero respect for this world view and hope we are able to simply bulldoze it with unstoppable momentum.
Nicely put. I just cannot tell if that is how you feel or your just channeling.
For me, I am divided. On one hand people do nothing unless motivated and needing basic necessities is a powerful motivator. On the other, I am curious as to the most cost effective approach. Plus I would much rather spend money on people getting along then police and armies.
Edit: Just thinking, maybe call me a libertarian socialist. Maybe that is why I am always confused.
this is an assumption worth challenging. the evidence suggests, in fact, that people are almost always doing things!
It is an interesting question. That is, the question if what motivates people to be productive. I think it varies widely.
That is accurate, but does not mean that basic survival should be that motivation.
I’m making fun of it. I am also a libertarian socialist or something.
I feel it, and I’m channeling. I DO NOT SUPPORT Biden, my vote is not FOR Biden it is for Not Trump. But I know that’s why there are MANY people who will refuse to support Biden. I think these people haven’t quite done the math.
You can have an old, out of touch fuck face who represents MUCH of what is wrong with mainstream American culture and wants to double down on a bunch of it, sustain some of it’s most toxic parts, while allowing for JUST ENOUGH progressive cultural change (especially the sort that doesn’t really change anything) to keep enough of the base engaged with him to keep him (and MOSTLY people like him) in power.
Or you can have a bunch of maniacs who literally want to create Handmaids Tail and are working hard to push us in that exact direction.
Those are the choices. That’s it. Don’t think of it as “Do I support this one or that one?”
Think of it as:
I can push the button for static, toxic status quo, or I can push the button for Handmaids. Not pushing a button is the same as pushing Handmaids. Also, there are a bunch of little green “Feel Good About Yourself And Win A Participation Trophy By Voting For A Third Party Candidate Who Actually Represents Your Actual Values” buttons, but pushing one of them is the same as pushing Handmaids.
If you’re hoping to motivate people to action with the horrifying reality of four more years of Trump (by protest refusing to support Biden)… it’s like headbutting a goat. The goat doesn’t care, or change it’s behavior and it hurts you WAY more than it hurts the goat. In this case, the Right is WAY better organized, unified and prepared to go full fascist then the Left is to get together and demand real change. If you’re unfamiliar with Leonard Leo or the 2025 project, I can point you at some podcasts to give you some nightmare fuel. There’s nothing like them on the Left, no one throwing that kind of money at being that organized to create political and social change on so many different levels.
EDIT; tl;dr: I STRONGLY feel like Biden does not deserve my support, and Gaza is a big part of my reasoning, but a non-vote is too close to a vote for Fascist Hellscape.