• Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee
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    8 months ago

    He denied the request by Ukraine to enable starlink in crimea because “it would make SpaceX explicitly implicit in a major act of war and conflict escalation” it would also have been illegal for him to do so because US sanctions prohibits it. The original claim about him disabling it is false and has been debunked. It wasn’t enabled in the first place. He also later added that had the US government asked him to enable it he would have but they didn’t.

    I also find it hilarious that Russia being able to obtain a limited amount of terminals is somehow proof that Elon is helping Russia but at the same time you’re conveniently ignoring the fact that there’s thousands of terminals in use on the Ukrainian side which SpaceX sent there for free when the invasion happened. It’s not Russia he sent those to but Ukraine.

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      8 months ago

      He didn’t send them all for free, they were also funded by the U.S. government. Sanctions say sales of such would be illegal in Russia. So yes, people in Ukraine can legally purchase and use Starlink and people in Russia legally should not be able too.

      So any of his terminals being used illegally are in fact his responsibility. They are using his companies satellites which are included in the sanctions… It doesn’t seem very confusing to me

      What part of that is confusing

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        8 months ago

        Do you know how many terminals SpaceX has already found out to used by Russians and have been disabled? Because I don’t but you seem to be implying that they’re not doing anything about it, so what are the numbers?

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          8 months ago

          So you claim they are doing something about it and demand someone else find you proof for your claims. Run around with your goal posts all you want.

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            8 months ago

            I’m not claiming anything. How could I know? I’m assuming they do, but to what extent is anyone’s guess. If someone has that strong opinion about it, I think it’s only logical to expect them to have a reason for it, such as evidence to the contrary.

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      8 months ago

      The BlueAnon cultists don’t care about the truth.

      It’s crazy how polarised these sorts of debates have become. I wish we could have sensible politicians with views like Andrew Yang, Lee Kuan Yew, Robert Zubrin, Nayib Bukele, Carl Sagan, Richard Dawkins, etc. - focus on developing technology and building up infrastructure and institutions for everyone.

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        8 months ago

        I can’t speak for the others but Dawkins has fallen into an anti-trans rabbithole lately and has said some pretty hateful stuff. :(

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            8 months ago

            It goes to show that people are complex, and contain multitudes. Cherrypicking isn’t a bad thing. The older I get, the harder I find it to get along with strangers, because I’ll have some point of contention with them. :/