You people look at a post and automatically apply it to every station around the country. Sorry to break it to you bud, but most cops train long and hard to protect the people they love, and have spouses and kids of their own. After defunding them all to the state of being mall cops, who is gonna come and save you from being shot the local rapist, mugger, or crackhead?
So here’s the thing: why do the police automatically close ranks and protect these abuses? Police unions, and even just regular PDs in small towns and big cities alike, will almost always close ranks around any sort of investigation into officers that abuse their power, or are accused of bad behavior. Why? If they really wanna “protect their loved ones”, shouldn’t they instead NOT tolerate abuses? Should they not, instead, strive to bring abuses to light, so the remaining officers can all hold each other accountable to that higher standard?
Additionally, I really take umbrage with the use of the word “defunded”, because what we usually mean is a little more complex - however, “the police in Millville, OH don’t need an armored personnel carrier and a crate of rifles and level IV plates all the time to protect their town of less than a thousand” doesn’t quite fit on a protest sign, and neither does “we shouldn’t be sending the police in to do things like wellness and mental health checks which they’re ill-equipped and ill-trained for”, or even “maybe not every situation should be immediately met with deadly force at the slightest inconvenience.” Moreover, if we do agree with your “protect and serve” mindset, shouldn’t the police WELCOME the help of a trained wing of people to deal specifically with things like suicidal tendencies, wellness checks on the elderly or the mentally unwell, and other situations that might escalate with the presence of an armed person shouting instructions at them?
I was stalked and harassed (like 100s of emails, txts, in person, etc) and when reported to the police they asked if “I have tried throwing it in, I might just like it”. Another was when they pulled a gun on me in front of my store because some one reported a bunch of cars that got robbed (it was me I made that report). Another was when a year after the stalker had a warrant out for their arrest proceeded to preform multiple “wellness” checks on the stalkers behalf (thereby doing the harassment for the stalker), and when asked if they knew who called the checks in they said they did know, but even if the other party is stalking/harassing you they still think they need to do the check.
Want more? When I was a child I was run over by a cop who ran a stop sign while on my bike, I was about to be arrested before another cop showed up, not to help me but to “stop the first from doing something stupid”.
I am not even 40 yet and I have at least a dozen stories where a cop made things much worse, and I am not even in a higher risk demographic.
That is some pretty terrible shit. I would recommend to consider taking legal action against whichever station that has caused you this trouble, but it seems to me that they will just be able to cover it all up and slide it under the pile of money that they put on the scale. The government should really put some effort into stoping acts like this, instead of giving all the money to the military so they can play with planes.
So if one dude in Toronto recommends that having your car stolen is better than having your house trashed, it means that cops in general tell you to give in to all the thieving?
It’s more a systemic thing, where they refuse to do their jobs but try charge you if you do it for them, they act more like a protection racket than a police force.
My town is a frequent target of ne’er do wells, as the police do not have any real coverage here. My car was pilfered again just 2 days ago and the police do nothing as of now. I know at least two of my neighbours who would take shots at these thieves if not for the police. As it stands people here don’t fear the criminals but the police, the ones stealing know they are more likely to be protected by the police then their victims.
We live in clown world, and the cops are holding up the big top.
It’s one step from abolishing the police to opening up your door to thieves and asking them to shoot up your house
I think you’ve confused abolishing the police with calling the police.
The police are thieves themselves
You people look at a post and automatically apply it to every station around the country. Sorry to break it to you bud, but most cops train long and hard to protect the people they love, and have spouses and kids of their own. After defunding them all to the state of being mall cops, who is gonna come and save you from being shot the local rapist, mugger, or crackhead?
So here’s the thing: why do the police automatically close ranks and protect these abuses? Police unions, and even just regular PDs in small towns and big cities alike, will almost always close ranks around any sort of investigation into officers that abuse their power, or are accused of bad behavior. Why? If they really wanna “protect their loved ones”, shouldn’t they instead NOT tolerate abuses? Should they not, instead, strive to bring abuses to light, so the remaining officers can all hold each other accountable to that higher standard?
Additionally, I really take umbrage with the use of the word “defunded”, because what we usually mean is a little more complex - however, “the police in Millville, OH don’t need an armored personnel carrier and a crate of rifles and level IV plates all the time to protect their town of less than a thousand” doesn’t quite fit on a protest sign, and neither does “we shouldn’t be sending the police in to do things like wellness and mental health checks which they’re ill-equipped and ill-trained for”, or even “maybe not every situation should be immediately met with deadly force at the slightest inconvenience.” Moreover, if we do agree with your “protect and serve” mindset, shouldn’t the police WELCOME the help of a trained wing of people to deal specifically with things like suicidal tendencies, wellness checks on the elderly or the mentally unwell, and other situations that might escalate with the presence of an armed person shouting instructions at them?
Six months training is long and hard?
The police are not obligated to protect and serve.
And quite often don’t.
Again, with all of the assumptions that the whole system is corrupt
The courts have repeatedly found, across multiple jurisdictions, that the police have no obligation to protect and serve the public.
Well I am assuming like myself many of us have first hand experience with the police doing us harm instead of good.
Please elaborate
I was stalked and harassed (like 100s of emails, txts, in person, etc) and when reported to the police they asked if “I have tried throwing it in, I might just like it”. Another was when they pulled a gun on me in front of my store because some one reported a bunch of cars that got robbed (it was me I made that report). Another was when a year after the stalker had a warrant out for their arrest proceeded to preform multiple “wellness” checks on the stalkers behalf (thereby doing the harassment for the stalker), and when asked if they knew who called the checks in they said they did know, but even if the other party is stalking/harassing you they still think they need to do the check.
Want more? When I was a child I was run over by a cop who ran a stop sign while on my bike, I was about to be arrested before another cop showed up, not to help me but to “stop the first from doing something stupid”.
I am not even 40 yet and I have at least a dozen stories where a cop made things much worse, and I am not even in a higher risk demographic.
That is some pretty terrible shit. I would recommend to consider taking legal action against whichever station that has caused you this trouble, but it seems to me that they will just be able to cover it all up and slide it under the pile of money that they put on the scale. The government should really put some effort into stoping acts like this, instead of giving all the money to the military so they can play with planes.
The police don’t stop those things from happening anyways.
Funny thing is that cops have told people to give into thieves making an already shitty argument even more moot.
https://globalnews.ca/news/10359055/leave-car-keys-the-front-door-to-avoid-home-invasion-toronto-police/
So if one dude in Toronto recommends that having your car stolen is better than having your house trashed, it means that cops in general tell you to give in to all the thieving?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/globalnews.ca/news/10364143/toronto-home-invasion-victim-police-advice-reaction/amp/
It’s more a systemic thing, where they refuse to do their jobs but try charge you if you do it for them, they act more like a protection racket than a police force.
yes as it was the police rep.
And when has police prevented thieving? At best they come after the fact.
They show up four days after the crime is committed, then blame it on you.
Yea, but there’s gonna be a lot more of them if cops are out of the question.
My town is a frequent target of ne’er do wells, as the police do not have any real coverage here. My car was pilfered again just 2 days ago and the police do nothing as of now. I know at least two of my neighbours who would take shots at these thieves if not for the police. As it stands people here don’t fear the criminals but the police, the ones stealing know they are more likely to be protected by the police then their victims.
We live in clown world, and the cops are holding up the big top.
less, usually.
Tell me you’ve never seen a real B&E without telling me you’ve never seen a real B&E.
It’s figurative language