• tsonfeir@lemm.ee
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    7 months ago

    Im not a conservative.

    Cops shouldn’t even have guns. Guns shouldn’t even exist.

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      7 months ago

      Sure, but they do have guns and guns do exist.

      Apologies for assuming you were a conservative, I’ve seen you around and you do seem to have mostly reasonable takes; but defending cops shooting a kid for having a toy is an objectively bad one.

      Agreed that the only real solution is fewer guns though.

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        7 months ago

        I’m not defending the cop. He could have parked down the street and got in the megaphone asking for the guy to empty his pockets and get on his knees. Dude totally fucked up by rolling up to him. Obviously if they thought he had a gun, getting close is a bad idea.

        Clearly the cop needs a little more training. But come on, walking down the street brandishing a “gun” in 2024? Not a super smart move.

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          7 months ago

          Kids don’t have the same risk evaluation skills as adults. You’re blaming the victim of a shooting because they don’t have the life experience that you do.

          It’s like saying “walking downtown in a skirt that short? Not a super smart move.” It’s not explicitly blaming a sexual assault victim for their attack, but you’re implying that they’re at least a little responsible.

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            7 months ago

            If he was 10, and looked like a kid, I’d agree with you.

            However, if the cop didn’t have a gun, he’d have to solve the problem without violence…

            I feel the comparison to rape is not appropriate. No one “freaks out and rapes” because they’re afraid for their life.

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              7 months ago

              If he was 10, and looked like a kid, I’d agree with you.

              Change this to “if he was white,” and you can see how ridiculous this argument is. I wasn’t making any point about his appearance; that’s irrelevant.

              The rest of your post is just as irrelevant to the points that I made, so I see no use in responding to them.

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                7 months ago

                If he was a green alien 👽 sounds ridiculous too. We can change the words to make anything sound ridiculous.

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                  7 months ago

                  So how is his appearance relevant then?

                  Especially considering that police frequently treat black kids as being older than they are? Should he have looked 8 just to make sure that he didn’t get shot?