This prob gonna get me banned, but yeah, they make everything…
They burn fuel for the demand of other countries, would be good if there was a way to track the emissions back to the countries fuelling (heh) the demand.
Basically, countries are outsourcing their emissions and then pointing the blame entirely at China. So China is definitely at fault, but other countries need to take some responsibility for that as well.
You can adjust for trade. It makes a fairly modest difference, about 9% of China’s emissions — the problem is China burning coal to support its own internal consumption.
That said, every country needs to drop to zero extraction and zero burning, not just China.
not just china
Yea, but it would be awesome if the country doing the most would stop.
It isn’t like China is an infallible state…
They’re probably going to peak emissions this year or next due to the huge wind and solar build-out that’s in progress — it means that those coal plants will sit idle much of the time.
That’s a valid point, but also China doesn’t really care about emissions standards. They could operate in a much cleaner fashion than they do.
But, but China is leading in green technology and solar and water and so on!
Wait, so China produces the majority of Solar Panels and batteries… with coal power? The fucking irony is ridiculous.
the coal power is meant to balance peak usages, and arent built to be on 24/7. when you have green power, its never 100% green because green energy options genwrally have slower ramp up periods for peak demand spikes, which usually natural gas is used, but coal is the cheaper alternative.
They used to, but that’s no longer quite true. The entire solar supply chain is in the state of Xinjiang, part of which conveniently is a desert. That is convenient for two reasons:
- You can extract silicon from desert sand.
- You can put multi-gigawatt solar farms in the desert.
(If you hear about human rights abuses connected to solar … Yeah, that Xinjiang supply chain is why.)
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I was hoping that the double “but” in the beginning makes it obvious enough.
Definitively they are. You can add rewilding to that list too
