• EatATaco@lemm.ee
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    7 months ago

    True, but people do things they shouldn’t do all the time because they are struggling. Like if your depressed friend flakes on hanging out, that’s “shitty behavior” too. Are they are bad person who you should ditch? Or a friend suffering that needs your support? In both cases, it seems to be the latter.

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      7 months ago

      If they need my support, they can ask for my support. They’re asking for money.

      If you can’t open up to me enough to say “I need your help,” I don’t think we were very good friends in the first place.

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        7 months ago

        So, a depressed person who flakes on hanging out is a bad person you should ditch.

        You and I are very different with our friends.

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            7 months ago

            You answered the question indirectly. Or intentionally avoided it because you don’t want to admit some inconsistency. I figured the former, but maybe I was wrong. So which is it?

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              7 months ago

              I did no such thing. If someone can ask for money remotely, they can ask for help remotely. If they can’t ask me for help, and they are rich, and they ask me for money, we obviously are not very good friends, because they clearly don’t trust me enough to just ask me for help.

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                7 months ago

                So what about the depressed friend who flakes on hanging out? If they can cancel remotely, they can also ask for help remotely. I don’t get why this analogy is just being ignored.

                If I think a friend my be suffering I reach out to them to see if they want to talk. I make myself available. I make sure they realize they aren’t alone. You think this makes them a bad friend for not asking for your help.

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                  7 months ago

                  I don’t know why you keep bringing up hanging out as if it’s relevant.

                  If a rich person asked me for money, I wouldn’t think they were suffering. I have no idea why you think I would believe someone doing that was suffering rather than being insufferable. Because this article says so?

                  Anyone who is actually my friend knows that the way to get me to help them is to ask me because it’s something I make clear all the time.

                  You’re basically telling me I wouldn’t be friends with someone I wouldn’t be friends with. This is true.

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                    7 months ago

                    I don’t know why you keep bringing up hanging out as if it’s relevant.

                    It’s entirely relevant because it’s the same thing: someone struggling with emotional or mental health acting poorly rather than directly asking for help.

                    If a rich person asked me for money, I wouldn’t think they were suffering. I have no idea why you think I would believe someone doing that was suffering rather than being insufferable. Because this article says so?

                    Well, not because the article says so, but because someone who works closely with these people is reporting on why they act that way. What do you expect me to do, take your unsubstantiated opinion above it?

                    It seems to me this is more about dehumanizing rich people to justify hatred, rather than being honest about the fact that they are human too and might just be suffering when they do something like this.