• mozz@mbin.grits.devOP
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        Have fun having all your (and everyone else’s) media supplied by the Koch Brothers because you didn’t feel like finding someone worth paying $7/month to

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          I’ve been having no problem avoiding them for free for decades. Making petty threats just makes you sound unreasonable.

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            You would describe the current state of the US, and the way the majority of the people in it view the world and how they understand what’s going on and what they should do (about climate change, about politics and who to support), to be no problem?

            Or you think that where people get their news and their understanding of the world plays no part in the massive problems that are at work in the country?

            I’m not trying to get into a big back and forth with you about it. You can have your own opinion on those things and you’re welcome to it. But it’s not at all a petty thing (to me at least), and it’s not any kind of outlandish threat – it is the simple present day reality. In my opinion.

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              Do you often make yourself feel better by inventing insulting fantasies about the people you talk to online? How could anyone expect to have a reasonable, good faith discourse with someone who speaks to others the way you do?

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                Dude I’m super condescending, I know. Sorry if I was coming across insulting which I probably was. But the whole mindset of, we better dodge the paywalls every chance we get, (edit: which, whether it’s intended this way or not, might as well translate to) “lol get fucked people who produce the news who are going out of business left and right” irritates me.

                I think your mindset of (edit: corrected the quote) “I’ve been having no problem avoiding them for free for decades” and not being interested apparently in looking further into it than that, is harmful. I explained why, probably with more hostility than needed to be there. But I still think it’s harmful.

                Edit: Made some edits to try to be more fair minded about it

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                  I never said those things, and you’re assuming a whole lot about me and what I think while taking out your frustrations on me which is shitty. And you’ve already made your feelings very clear.

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          Seattle Times is not some bastion of good journalism. They have been known to have a right center bias for a long time. Also, why would anyone outside Seattle pay for the Seattle times? You are hard arguing for a site with a lot of reasons to not pay for it.

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      6 months ago

      What kind of gift card? They seem to accept some “promo code”, but if that’s coming from a gift card specific to this site, no one will be able to use that.

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        If you really feel like the Seattle Times knowing your real name is a catastrophe, you can buy one of those Vanilla Visa gift cards and use that for the subscription. I think that’s not necessary, but it’s certainly an option.