• Buttons@programming.dev
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    6 months ago

    Yet another tool that uses “freedom of speech” incorrectly

    Often freedom of speech is a moral ideal, a moral aspiration, and dismissing it on legal grounds is missing the point.

    If I say “people should have a right to healthcare”, and you respond “people do not have a legal right to healthcare”, you are correct, but you have missed the point. If I say people should have freedom of speech and you respond that the first amendment doesn’t apply to Facebook, you are right, but have again missed the point.

    In general, when people advocate for any change, they can be countered with “well, the law doesn’t require that”. Yes, society currently works the way the law says it should. But what we’re talking about is how society should work and how the law should change.

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      6 months ago

      That’s lovely, and I appreciate the sentiment. It doesn’t change the fact that someone abuses the term in order to force others to listen to BS. I’m not opposed to the ideal, I am opposed to the expectation that people have a right to make you listen to them.

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        6 months ago

        I’m okay with algorithms not recommending certain posts. I just don’t like shadowbans because the platform is lying to the user, the user interface is essentially telling the user “your post is available for viewing and is being treated like any other post” when it really isn’t.

        There’s a balance between the free speech of individuals and the free speech of the company. I think a fair balance between the two is, once a company is big enough to control a significant percentage of the entire nation’s discourse, the company at least has to be up front and avoid deceptive practices like shadow-banning. (This should only apply to large companies, once a company is large enough it has a responsibility to society.)

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        6 months ago

        I’m opposed to the idea, we’ve got enough people that think their ideas need to be broadcast to everyone in the world.

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      6 months ago

      The thing is people shouldnt have that level of “freedom of speech”

      No one is above reproach.