• ozymandias117@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    E.g. iCloud says it’s using 13.4 GiB to store photos, Settings -> General -> iPhone Storage says I can save 15.5 GiB because they’re backed up on iCloud, and if I use idevicebackup2 to pull everything off the phone, there are 21.7 gigs of photos

    I’m wondering if these discrepancies are related to the photo app not actually deleting pictures from the filesystem

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        5 months ago

        I’d disregarded compression as a possibility because the wording is “full resolution photos and videos are safely stored in iCloud”

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          5 months ago

          There is lossless compression. Not saying that’s the cause of the varied number, but it is a common thing.

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            5 months ago

            They’re already using HEIC/HEIF

            I would be disappointed if they’re compressing it even more on iCloud. You can’t generally meaningfully compress a compressed file

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              That’s not how lossless compression works. No data is lost.

              For example, if you zip a folder of images, then unzip them, the pictures come out with their original sizes and structure. Zip is lossless.

              Let’s use the analogy of a dish sponge.

              Let’s pretend you wanted to make a dish sponge smaller. Lossy compression would make the sponge smaller by cutting off parts and throwing them away. Lossless would make it smaller by squish the sponge, and it would return to its normal shape once you stopped squishing it.

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                5 months ago

                For your analogy, you can’t put more water in a sponge that is completely saturated

                Trying to compress a compressed file doesn’t really work - at least not for a meaningful gain in storage size with zip, bzip, 7zip, gzip, xz, lzma…