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    5 months ago

    That’s why you are not allowed anything that remotely resembles democracy

    I don’t agree with that. I think the Danish democratic political system is functioning quite well, all things considered.

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      5 months ago

      Don’t you guys still have a King who was born into wealth because his great great great great grandfather killed the most people and took their land?

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        5 months ago

        The monarchy is slightly controversial but the majority of danes like it. There are certain benefits - if we didn’t have a king, we’d need a president instead who would be a much more politically divisive figure than the king is. As it is, the king is a much more uniting figure. We also don’t need to have elections for the president or any of that stuff.

        And no, of course he has no real power. Which is honestly good, cause a president would have more power than that. I personally prefer the situation as it is right now. The king stays because the people say so - that is also democracy.

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          5 months ago

          That you accept the child of the wolf as your king doesn’t change that your King was born into wealth because of the violence of his ancestors.

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            5 months ago

            That’s fair, but his ancestors crimes are not his to bear or be blamed for.

            And again, it doesn’t change that the people still want to keep the monarchy. So democracy has spoken.

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              5 months ago

              So it’s fine if I murder your family and take everything your children have so that my children can live in luxury?

              In the US, mobsters kill with impunity while their family gets reality TV (Mob wives) showing off their life of luxury. The “children are innocent of their parents crimes” is unjust because the victims’ children suffer.

              The King is the child of a mobster. His luxury life came from violence. Your children will have to work their entire lives in part because of what the King’s ancestors stole from them.

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                5 months ago

                Obviously that is not fine but you’re making a strawman of what I said before. The situation you present is not comparable.

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                  5 months ago

                  The King lives in luxury because his ancestors killed your ancestors and left their children in poverty to work for him.

                  That’s not a strawman.

                  I provided the background that your claim “children are innocent of their parents’ crimes” isn’t just.

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                    5 months ago

                    The danish monarchy is so old that this is so far in the past that it literally does not matter any more. A couple of generations, sure. 1000 years of generations? Nobody cares and I don’t think it’s reasonable to blame anyone for crimes made by ancestors that far in the past. It’s not like we blame me for my ancestors (vikings) pillaging of Englang and other horrible things they did.

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      5 months ago

      I don’t agree with that.

      You don’t have to agree with it… reality is not on your side.

      I think the Danish democratic political system is functioning quite well

      You can’t even tell what qualifies as democratic or not - how can you tell if there is anything democratic about Denmark?

      Have you even bothered to check how many factories and workplaces in Denmark are democratically run?

      Yes? No?

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        Codetermination: German law specifically mandates democratic worker participation in the oversight of workplaces with 2000 or more employees. Similar laws exist in Denmark for businesses with more than 20 workers and France for businesses with more than 5000 workers.

        Damn that wasn’t hard to find

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          It’s 35 employees in Denmark, btw.

          But yeah… “industrial democracy” does exist in some places in Europe.