This is the worst part about Apple. I support apple at my work but it gets harder and harder to hear my daughters talk about the bullying on text groups.

WTF is wrong with Apple?

  • Nunar@lemmy.worldOP
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    5 months ago

    I get they’re going to support RCS soon, but why let this shit happen for so long?

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      5 months ago

      It is a valuable cue to immediately distinguish encrypted from plaintext.

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        5 months ago

        And where I live you pay for SMS. So blue is free, but green is not. Also helpful.

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      5 months ago

      I bet their version of RCS is also minimal. Just so they can complain about how broken RCS is. Thanks to their shenanigans, third party messaging apps thrive outside of the standards and market fragmentation is real. Getting to be a damn pain having to check which apps a person has before being able to communicate with them.

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        5 months ago

        RCS at this point is just another Google messenger. And officially unencrypted as well. At least Google recently implemented encryption on top of it and it looks like Apple will adopt it as well.

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          Yes, but proprietary methods encourage fragmentation. Id rather they build on a universal standard that gets updated once in a while. If apple were to open up iMessage, I’d be on board. But not holding my breath waiting for that to happen.

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            5 months ago

            RCS dates back to 2007/2008 when it was still called lots of other names. (E.g. Joyn) And since then, not many cell providers adopted it. For all other providers (and those still sitting on an old version of RCS), communication will happen via Google-servers. It basically is a proprietary service under the disguise of a public standard. Especially because of this I’d rather use “proprietary” encrypted chats with it, so Google doesn’t get a copy of all my texts.

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        5 months ago

        Read up on RCS’ history, and current standard.

        RCS is a clown college of brokenness that doesn’t include encryption, and not even all of the telcoms in the country put together could make an official client for it. It is no more a standard than iMessage, and it certainly isn’t as good of one.

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        5 months ago

        If RCS gets the bubbles the same color, whatever, that’s great. I always encourage 3rd party apps like Signal to at least get reasonable encryption. I am actually proud of a lot of the kids to use something else.