• Ulu-Mulu-no-die@lemm.ee
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      1 year ago

      Doesn’t that depend on game devs?

      I mean, I can copy Baldur’s Gate on a PC where there’s no Steam at all and play it just fine, because the game itself doesn’t have any restrictions. If other games have DRMs I don’t think it’s Steam fault.

      If you want to be totally free from DRMs you need to check GOG, if a game is there, it doesn’t have DRM, so neither the Steam version will.

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        1 year ago

        I mean, I can copy Baldur’s Gate on a PC where there’s no Steam at all and play it just fine, because the game itself doesn’t have any restrictions

        I don’t think so, no. You can do that with the gog version. With the steam version it’ll try to launch / connect to the local installed steam at startup, and fails if it cannot do so. You’d need to install a steam emulator like goldberg for it to work.

        This is the case with most games (there are a few exceptions) on steam, even those that don’t enforce “strong” DRM. They want steam running. This is, by itself, a completely unacceptable form of DRM.

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          1 year ago

          You can do that with the gog version.

          You can do that with Steam too, I know because I’m doing it. I have dual boot, I use Windows very rarely (I play on Linux) so Steam is not installed on it at all, I copied BG3 on it to try out mods because Mod Manager doesn’t work on wine for me.

          I can assure you the game works perfectly fine without Steam.

          With the steam version it’ll try to launch / connect to the local installed steam at startup

          As you sure you’re using the right exe? bg3_dx11.exe and not some launcher?

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            1 year ago

            Sorry, I should’ve clarified: I didn’t try it with BG3 (I use the gog version) - hence my “I don’t think so”; I simply assumed it wouldn’t work because that’s the case with like 99% of steam games.

            This means Larian specifically implemented their calls to the steam API in order not to exit if it fails to connect; that’s indeed pretty good and in fact I know of only one other such exception to the rule: rimworld.

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              Ah ok.

              I simply assumed it wouldn’t work because that’s the case with like 99% of steam games

              That’s because the vast majority of games implement DRM unfortunately, BG3 does not, Witcher doesn’t either, any game that does not have any DRM can be played fine outside of Steam, tho there are not many.

              DRMs are not Steam doing, it’s game devs.