• tiredturtle@lemmy.ml
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    4 months ago

    Yeah it’s tough to find a compromise when Russia seems to go for the total victory or at least a settlement of gains and Ukraine hopes for a stalemate without border changes.

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      4 months ago

      Ukraine hopes for total retreat from all claimed Ukrainian territory, not a mere stalemate. That’s hardly compromise.

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        4 months ago

        That’s right and as long as US and western allies keep up with deliveries there is a chance for Ukraine to achieve its objectives.

        Ideally leading to Russian collapse.

        Before you get bent out of shape about it is in possible…

        Recent history does demonstrate that invading country that faces a determined opposition will generally have to go home with their dicks tucked.

        How long can Russia spin this shot at home esp as Ukraine is striking critical assets deep within Russia.

        And the west hasn’t even given Ukraine the best shit and permission to use it as needed.

        • davel [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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          4 months ago

          Okay Brzezinski. Russia hardly faces a determined opposition: it faces a dwindling supply of forced conscripts.

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            4 months ago

            Well you got nothing to worry about then. Kyiv by winter?

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              4 months ago

              I don’t think they even want Kyiv. Western Ukraine is rife of neo-Nazis, making it impossible to occupy long-term.

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                4 months ago

                I thought they were liberating rather than occupying?

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                    Seriously. You can show them objective facts from multiple sources from around the world with completely disparate editorial incentives and they’ll just troll you. Then years later you can show them THEIR OWN SIDE admitting that very same thing and even then they’ll just continue as they were with the same profoundly unserious, trite attitude towards the subject. Lol.