Not necessarily. One can be non-binary and not be trans. I know someone that identifies as NB and they never “transitioned” into their current self. They’ve always been that way and never transitioned.
Edit: also, what’s with the vitriol? Is this such a contentious subject that you’re angry that I might have a view other than yours? Why does that make me an “asshole?”
Okay so like, 1% of nonbinary people don’t identify as trans but it’s generally accepted considered part of the trans umbrella and it’s fucked up to the vast majority of nonbinary people to say they arent trans… esp when there are tons of asshole transmeds trying to say that.
That sounds a lot like you lean more towards the medical side of trans. This is fine on its face but it can often lead to a lot of gatekeeping and such within and outside of the community.
The most common example is to have people only count as trans if they are taking medication and then limiting access to that medication to certain groups, effectively removing the classifier of “trans” from the person.
Judging someones anything purely by a certain standard leans into the No True Scotsman side of things and can damage the community and it’s members.
I appreciate that you’re willing to learn more on the topic either way. I don’t think you’re an asshole but basing if someone is trans purely medically is also something assholes do for asshole end goals. It’s less about you and more about the company that shares that opinion and the other opinions that company shares amongst themselves.
“I appreciate that you’re willing to learn more on the topic either way. I don’t think you’re an asshole but […]”
And I appreciate that you understand that not everyone knows everything. I apologize if I seemed in any way reductive or dismissive. That was not my intention. I was just saying what I learned from a NB person about their experience. I know that not everyone has similar experiences or opinions.
Learning is an essential part of being human :D I definitely still have more to learn either way.
It’s important to note that some NB people do consider themselves trans and some don’t… Which can get a bit confusing if you’re out of the space itself.
I just personally worry that any sort of blanket classification of NB people as non-trans can lead to the erasure that bisexual people experience. (Bisexual people are often called “gay but trying to hide it” even within LGBTQ+ spaces)
So true with the bi erasure; I have experienced that personally.
I, again, apologize for my ignorance. I didn’t realize the issues regarding the feelings people have about NB being trans or not. I have a limited experience with close friends explaining their views on the subject.
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Not necessarily. One can be non-binary and not be trans. I know someone that identifies as NB and they never “transitioned” into their current self. They’ve always been that way and never transitioned.
Edit: also, what’s with the vitriol? Is this such a contentious subject that you’re angry that I might have a view other than yours? Why does that make me an “asshole?”
Okay so like, 1% of nonbinary people don’t identify as trans but it’s generally accepted considered part of the trans umbrella and it’s fucked up to the vast majority of nonbinary people to say they arent trans… esp when there are tons of asshole transmeds trying to say that.
That sounds a lot like you lean more towards the medical side of trans. This is fine on its face but it can often lead to a lot of gatekeeping and such within and outside of the community.
The most common example is to have people only count as trans if they are taking medication and then limiting access to that medication to certain groups, effectively removing the classifier of “trans” from the person.
Judging someones anything purely by a certain standard leans into the No True Scotsman side of things and can damage the community and it’s members.
I appreciate that you’re willing to learn more on the topic either way. I don’t think you’re an asshole but basing if someone is trans purely medically is also something assholes do for asshole end goals. It’s less about you and more about the company that shares that opinion and the other opinions that company shares amongst themselves.
And I appreciate that you understand that not everyone knows everything. I apologize if I seemed in any way reductive or dismissive. That was not my intention. I was just saying what I learned from a NB person about their experience. I know that not everyone has similar experiences or opinions.
Learning is an essential part of being human :D I definitely still have more to learn either way.
It’s important to note that some NB people do consider themselves trans and some don’t… Which can get a bit confusing if you’re out of the space itself.
I just personally worry that any sort of blanket classification of NB people as non-trans can lead to the erasure that bisexual people experience. (Bisexual people are often called “gay but trying to hide it” even within LGBTQ+ spaces)
So true with the bi erasure; I have experienced that personally.
I, again, apologize for my ignorance. I didn’t realize the issues regarding the feelings people have about NB being trans or not. I have a limited experience with close friends explaining their views on the subject.
Thanks for the help. I love learning.
It’s not a “different opinion”, it’s denying people’s identities which can lead to people denying trans healthcare. It’s a huge asshole take.