AOC turns 35 right before the election, she’s eligible. I think she’d be incredible. She knows how to energize people
I really wish she wasn’t constantly referred to by an acronym, it makes her sound like a super PAC or some other soulless organization instead of an actual person. Pedantic I know, but as someone only vaguely familiar with her, it’s the first thing I think of when I hear about her.
What about MLK, LBJ, JFK, RFK, etc? Lots of people get “initialized”
FDR, NAS,
Milky, Leblanc jayce, Jesus fucking Krist, no idea.
I prefer names tbh. I’m not american tho.
That’s fair. In the US we use those initialisms almost exclusively to refer to those people in casual conversation. They are Martin Luther King (Jr; civil rights advocate I perhaps arrogantly assume most people know of), Lindon B. Johnson (president), John F. Kennedy (president), Robert F. Kennedy (current presidential candidate/Democrat spoiler), and AOC is Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez
Why doesn’t it ever stop
It’s not just in the politics subs now, it’s everywhere
Please, won’t someone make it stop
You can try to ignore politics all you want but it’ll fuck up your life anyway.
Not everyone lives in the USA you donkey. Your circus is EVERYWHERE and it’s driving me insane. It’s literally all you can talk about.
I don’t live in the US and I’m as fed up with the whole shitshow as you are. But US politics unfortunately influences the entire world and if Trump gets elected everybody will suffer, no matter where they live.
It’s almost like US politics have a slight impact beyond the US.
You know non USA people are not allowed to vote in the USA presidential election, right?
The arrogance is astounding.
I don’t mean to be arrogant. But I assume you realize US politics have implications worldwide. That is why many people in many countries take interest in it. Maybe it would be a good thing if US politics only affected the US, but that doesn’t seem to be the current situation.
Where do you live? I bet the US has a military base either there or within one of your neighbors. Not to mention that the US has caused or perpetuates a lot of wars your country is probably involved in now or in the past, especially if you live anywhere in Europe (who are supporting things like Israel or are in NATO), Australia, Canada, Mexico, anywhere in South America, some African countries, or East Asia. The world reserve currency is also currently the dollar. And they are a major player in all of the major international organizations like the UN security Council (the only part of the UN with teeth), NATO, the IMF, and orgs like that.
US politics influence EVERYTHING.
If you don’t live in the territory of the American Republic, don’t worry, the American Empire aims to change that.
And it’ll fuck up your life if you don’t ignore it either. Talking about politics online does not equate to political activism.
Welcome to Mr. Bones’ Wild Ride, it never ends!
I want to get off Mr. John Adultman’s repeated explanations of why Biden needs to step down
It’s only going to get worse for almost a year.
Just keep your head in the sand bruh. Its where you’ve been this whole time.
Hey! It’s the guy with nothing worth saying. That still manages to say it too loud.
If you follow me, I’ve called this entire mess, its causes and its resolutions, 9 months out.
And I’ve pretty much been entirely correct, except that I called that Biden would drop out about 2 weeks earlier than he did.
In fact I have bets going back as far as December/ January that I’ll be able to collect on.
You can have a world view that predicts future states of reality, or can have whatever anti-scientific, reality denying mess Blue-MAGA has wrapped themselves up in.
The choice is yours.
As long as you believed it that makes one person. No on else does. No one has to follow you. We’ve seen you immaturely spamming/trolling, unable to articulate actual solutions. All over the place. You aren’t collecting on anyone. But I comend you on your vivid imagination.
Its all here my dude. Documented for all to see. As is the gaslighting, lying, cult-like behavior that you’ve been engaged in.
I won. History is and will be on my side.
It’s cute you think so. If only believing made it so.
Not everyone lives in the US you idiot.
Bernie sanders with AOC as his VP pick
Biden is too old but you want to pick Bernie? I love the guy and donated to his campaigns, but he is not the Biden replacement.
Old yes but still on his game, which is all that matters
Yes, but also no. The whole point of switching from Biden is to disarm the “too old attack.”
Yeah traitors want to argue the rest of us don’t want nazis
I mean, ultimately, I’m voting for whoever the democrats put on the ticket for that very reason. However, I would really like to see someone who has a chance of winning be on that ticket instead of just watching the train wreck happen in front of us.
i dont want someone that old either. unfortunately, he is most likely to beat trump. can’t see harris winning cause she is a woman and a minority and this country is still very racist/sexist. i also predict biden would step down shortly after 2nd term. worst case of biden winning is he dies in office of old age
Worst case of Biden is him losing like the polls indicate. Harris is not a suitable replacement either like you said. But there are plenty of others.
Bernie is only 4 years older than trump. Tbh, they all should have retired years ago, but crying about age while supporting a senile geriatric is just as baseless as the rest of their grievances.
You’re not wrong. But Trump is far more coherent than Biden. It’s all lies, but they were coherent lies at the debate.
Trump has never been coherent, not once in his life.
Remember this?
“I’m speaking with myself, number one, because I have a very good brain and I’ve said a lot of things. I know what I’m doing and I listen to a lot of people, I talk to a lot of people and at the appropriate time I’ll tell you who the people are. But my primary consultant is myself and I have a good instinct for this stuff.”
— Donald Trump, March 16, 2016, after being asked who he consults with about foreign policy
Or this?
“My uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, okay, very smart. The Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, okay, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I’m one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you’re a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are (nuclear is powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what’s going to happen and he was right — who would have thought?), but when you look at what’s going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it’s all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don’t, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us.”
Yet Biden was so bad that Trump was far more coherent than Biden was. That’s how bad of a candidate Biden is.
He’s still sharp, and there’s literally no one I trust more to do the job tbh.
You’re kidding yourself if you think he’s still sharp.
I’m curious who Bernie would pick.
Bernie?
How about we appreciate the work he’s done but get some actual you get folks who aren’t boomers in charge. His time has unfortunately passed for the highest office but he can be hugely effective in an important cabinet position.
Shutup Feinstein
lol, no you. Feinstein was too old as well. There should be an age restriction on both ends for government jobs.
I don’t think they expected people to live this long when they wrote the constitution, and I know they didn’t consider how tribalistic the country would get. Well, Washington did, but nobody listened to him.
I’ve been saying that for over ten years now, but the time has passed for him. Doesn’t he have a younger protege that we can start pushing?
I think it’s AOC, but conservatives have a disdain for her that I worry would be Hillary part 2.
I expect to see big things from her in the next 10 years.
If she drops some of her extreme positions, calms down a bit and moves further to the center, she’ll have a real shot at the candidacy by the time she’s 75.
Cleaving to the centre has enabled Trump, because centrists can’t criticise the neoliberal system while Trump and his MAGA cult can and will.
As the facade of neoliberal policy crumbles we can all see it doesn’t work. Being able to criticise it and assert a different future (rather than a mythical past of greatness) is essential.
You just nailed the disdain - it’s that she’s a woman. And a minority, at that. We can never win those people over.
Yes exactly, Bernie has similar politics but doesn’t get the same hatred. There were some Bernie voters who even hopped to Trump. They care more about sexism/racism than actual politics.
I voted for him in the 2020 primary, but if were pushing Biden out because he’s too old then the same certainly applies to Bernie. Even if he’s more coherent and effective now, how will he be in four years?
The obvious answer is “whom ever the corporate lobbyist says should take over.”
I should’ve answered that. But, I picked Harris even though I wanted Whitmer.
Why the fuck is Michelle Obama even in the list?
Can’t have america without political dynasties
Seriously. Even here on Lemmy people are suggesting her. I think she’s an awesome person but what makes her even remotely qualified to be president other than being married to a previous president? When I see shit like this it just reminds me of Hollywood and their insistence on rebooting anything and everything familiar to the populace whether they want it or not. If they’d more consistently won it’d be Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama, Clinton, Biden, Obama spanning the last 40 years in a country with 330 million individuals.
To be fair, being married to a previous president is more experience than most people have.
It would also be a hilarious kick in the teeth to Hillary if Michelle got elected.
Whatever it is, it’s more than trump has.
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Danny DeVito
Good choice, but he’s contracted to play the next Wolverine.
If Danny DeVito were president, I would love to America in a heartbeat.
I’m pretty tired of celebrities with no qualifications running the country.
Other: Birdie Sanders, the only politician benevolent enough to be blessed by a visit from a bird during his speech.
If Democracy is threatened by fascism, as we’ve been told, then it’s time for Michelle Obama to step up. She can resign after the win. Do the right thing Michelle.
None of the above, although Michelle would rock it - but she’s said she’s not interested, and having watched her husband do the job for 8 years, that’s probably a hard “nope.”
Harris will lose the race. She’ll be a popular punching bag for conservatives, and she’s polling even lower than Biden.
My favorites aren’t on there. Where’s Cory Booker? Where’s Amy Klobuchar? Where’s Andrew Yang? Where’s Buttigieg, or Warren?
Yang, Buttigieg, and Warren would lose, for different reasons. Klobuchar or Booker would stand a chance, i think. But of all of these “pre-vetted” options, I guess Whitmer’s in a strong position.
But not Harris. It’ll be her, of course, if he does step back, but they’ll crucify her. It’ll be Clinton all over again, only she’s starting even less popular than Hillary was. I don’t think conservatives have quite the visceral hatred for her that they seem to have foot Hillary, and she’s less prone to sticking her foot in her mouth, but nobody likes her, either. At least Hillary appealed to progressive women.
At least Hillary appealed to progressive women.
As a progressive woman, this is news to me.
Harris is the least disruptive choice. I want a socialist, but that ain’t happening.
Why not? Republicans won with a fascist.
Surely this means as the “center” position liberalism can accept a socialist.
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I honestly don’t fully understand the Kamala hate. I know she was a prosecutor, but I don’t remember having a strong negative opinion of her in 2020.
I have no opinion about her. I just know she hasn’t polled well.
I have read that some progressives didn’t like her performance as prosecutor, but you’re never going to win with some groups with that job.
It’s just racists and misogynists not wanting to vote for a WOC
Where’s Andrew Yang?
#YangGang is a glimpse into the reality of the Democratic Party’s Asian American problem. (this isn’t the appropriate venue to actually discuss those issues; a quick Google search will quite contemporary results showing the trend).
Yang has moved on and created the “Forward Party” which is working to gain ballot access at the local level in a handful of States.
Thanks! I know Yang’s active, but I wasn’t aware he was that active. I hope he gets traction; it’s a steep, nearly impossible hill for third parties.
You might want to look at who his allies are and what his current policies are compared to what he claimed they were.
That’s good advice. Is there something in particular you think I should look out for?
I mostly go by stated planks and policies, and I admit I have assumed they haven’t changed much; when I do see news about him, nothing much seems to have changed.
OK. I’m sorry. That video is over an hour long, and even skipping forward through the toilet humor puppet parts, I found it hard to watch.
But I did watch far enough to grab this screenshot
which is the Forward Party’s planks. I take it you object to some of them? The YouTuber obviously did. I sat through his mocking the idea that the government should make policy on divisive issues based on facts (science) and, failing that, listening to the citizens and letting popular opinion decide policy. I dropped out before hearing his opinion on human-centered capitalism, although I could almost smell the laissez-faire economics through the screen, so I’m guessing he was equally dismissive of that.
If he mocked (and, could he not have?) the “Effective and Modern-Day Government,” well, I can’t blame him, because I don’t know WTF that means, either.
But, oh, if that guy’s a libertarian, and I’ve got a buck that says he is, then I’ll bet UBI really got him worked up. Although, I’d like to hear his solution for when ML eliminates white collar jobs, including his.
“Grace and Tolerance” are just being good people. It’s sad it has too be included as a plank, but considering that one party is objectively and openly opposed to any form of grace or tolerance (except tolerance of intolerance - Nazis deserve to be in government, too!), it’s not absurd that the Forward Party included it. It’s a sort of “Do no evil” company motto that served well, until accountants took over.
I got about a third of the way through before I bailed. Not my kind of humor, and I think from my brief exposure, I think I’d really dislike that guy as a person. He looks like someone I’d end up punching because he’s pushing his girlfriend around outside of a club.
Lol, incredible. Cody Johnston is for sure a libertarian, you have demonstrated incredible insight and intellectual rigor.
I think you’re exactly the kind of voter the Forward Party is looking for!
Someone who wants to know what they actually stand for, but, not, like, by doing something that would take more than 15 minutes.
Tammy Duckworth FTW…
Other
Pete Buttigeg/AOC dream team.
Young, wicked smart, progressive enough.
The McKinsey consultant? The guy managing the Boeing stuff currently? I guess he couldn’t be too much worse than the current situation but why would you proactively choose him?
Because he could talk his way out of a pair of handcuffs and a locked cage, and I think we need someone to highlight the stupidity coming from the right and he can do it. Let AOC be the power behind the office and keep him in line.
Fair enough
Found the New Englander.
Pete Buttiegieg
✅ Military experience. We may need a leader who knows first hand the danger they are putting our young men and women in.
✅ Governing experience (if you can be a community organizer, peanut farmer, or reality TV star, being a mayor is absolutely legitimate experience)
✅ Federal experience
✅ I’m gonna say it- in hindsight he managed the rail union strike amazingly well. He avoided a supply chain catastrophy, then a few months later got the union the sick time they need. He had his cake and ate it too.
✅ Medicare for those who want it is a realistic plan. It’s it perfect? No. But it’s better and more importantly can pass through Congress.
I fully expect comments to fully support this take without any criticism for a center left candidate who doesn’t plan on tearing down capitalism brick by brick./s
Also, I’m gonna say it, I’d love to vote for a gay man. I’d love to see the GOP desperately try to bite their tongue knowing that the overwhelming majority of Americans wouldn’t support them saying “don’t vote for the f*****” which we all know they’d want to say so damn hard. You know they’d end up slipping up and showing their true colors which could help turn people away.
Oh absolutely. We need an inspiring queer leader to mark a new era, where young LGBT children can grow up knowing they have a future in our country, let alone a future at all.
You forget that half of the GOP are closeted, self-loathing homosexuals.
All of that and he does SO much better than any one else I’ve seen on interviews. If he isn’t president this year he’ll run in 2028.
I dunno. He seems kinda Cunty In Allegiance.
I want to get off mr bones wild ride
I’d pick the one that polls the highest against Trump whether I like them or not. That was the only reason I was supporting Biden in the past. If I could go back in time and do a real primary and pick someone based on who would run the country the best it could be a million people (Bernie, AOC, Buttigieg, etc), but the thing that matters to me most is who stands the best chance against Trump. A milquetoast do-nothing dem is a mile ahead of Trump 2.0 + P2025.
That’s pretty much the entirety of the DNC platform now, “Not Trump”. I went to the Democrat’s website last night to actually read the platform and the first thing I saw was a huge banner with Trump’s face.
I don’t do these polls. They are just a way to get a foot in the door to solicit donations. The majority of the time you can’t even complete them without pledging to donate.
Yes, they solicit donations. It doesn’t mean you have to donate. I do them to influence the party. Give me the policies I want, then I’ll donate.
They get their guiding information from real polls, collected by real people, over the phone or in person. There is no way they would rely on a crazy inaccurate web poll to gather any useful information. If you analyze these “polls” at all, you can easily see that they are barely disguised push-polls without any statistical value. They would be crazy to rely on them.
I DO participate when an actual pollster conducting an actual scientific poll calls me,
Just got another one:
I understand this. But the fact that a PAC is using disinterest for Biden to solicit donations is telling. I know that it won’t affect the party decision. But it is a way display dissatisfaction for those decisions.
As POTUS I don’t doubt that she’d adopt the same shitty foreign policy as Biden, but I do like what Whitmer has done in Michigan. We could do worse.
I wanted Whitmer but I chose to be pragmatic and picked Harris. I just want Biden to bow out.
