A few years ago we were able to upgrade everything (OS and Apps) using a single command. I remember this was something we boasted about when talking to Windows and Mac fans. It was such an amazing feature. Something that users of proprietary systems hadn’t even heard about. We had this on desktops before things like Apple’s App Store and Play Store were a thing.

We can no longer do that thanks to Flatpaks and Snaps as well as AppImages.

Recently i upgraded my Fedora system. I few days later i found out i was runnig some older apps since they were Flatpaks (i had completely forgotten how I installed bitwarden for instance.)

Do you miss the old system too?

Is it possible to bring back that experience? A unified, reliable CLI solution to make sure EVERYTHING is up to date?

  • h3ndrik@feddit.de
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    10 months ago

    Yes we did. I miss the old system.

    Also I don’t like my laptop rebooting in my backpack to install updates, after I’ve tried to shut it down.

    • Gamey@feddit.de
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      10 months ago

      We never lost any “ild system” and the rebooting is probably how your distro implements updates, I use Fedora so mine often wants a reboot but that’s definitely not the norm on Linux as far as I know and I never had a device turn back on on it’s own…

      • h3ndrik@feddit.de
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        10 months ago

        I think I first saw that on Fedora, years and years ago. I’m currently running Debian (testing) on my laptop. There was definitely some change at some point.

        Well. It’s more, I click shutdown and because Linux has been 500% reliable for me, immediately shut the lid and throw the thing into my backpack. And instead of a shutdown, it tries to reboot, apply the updates and then do the shut down. But that fails because I use full disk encryption and it just sits at the password prompt until I pull it out again. Just heating my backpack from the inside and depleating the battery. So technically it doesn’t turn on on its own. It just doesn’t turn off as expected.

        • mwguy@infosec.pub
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          10 months ago

          I feel you. At some point distro designers decided that shutdown/reboot were suggestions instead of commands. I too have had troubles with hot backpack syndrome and it’s super annoying especially when traveling. You think you’re going to turn on your laptop on a plane with 100% battery ready to do some offline work and now you’ve got a lava hot brick with 7% battery life left.