• oce 🐆@jlai.lu
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    3 months ago

    Yes some of the products have extremely functional uses, but for the rest of it

    Don’t you think most plastic products are used because it’s convenient?

    I fight against it, but it is hard to not recognize how a plastic bottle is much lighter than any other bottle material, how convenient it is to get a plastic bag at the shop when you forgot yours, how convenient it is to get a ready meal in a cheap plastic box instead of an expensive and/or heavy washable container that you may have to bring back etc. Even compared to paper bags, plastic bags are more resistant, lighter and more compact.
    There are probably much more similar convenience uses in the industry.
    Plastic is mostly used because it’s convenient, not because of a big plastic conspiracy.

    So to solve the issue, we need states to make it expensive enough that people will overcome the inconvenience. Making people pay for plastic bags at shops works very well, for example.

    I speak as someone horrified by the over-abundance of plastics in Japan. Some fruits have 3 layers of plastic around, even bananas come in plastic bags, because modern Japan is all about looking clean and being convenient, zero fucks given to ecology.

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      3 months ago

      Aluminum water bottles are an option. I was at an airport recently where they only sold water in aluminum bottles and it was awesome.

    • brbposting@sh.itjust.works
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      3 months ago

      Yeah it stinks.

      And I know plastic hurts all of us… but can’t we hear it now, any plan to fix this is going to:

      hurt the poor the most

      Any tax whose cost it passed on, any system to use reusables (unless it decreases costs)…

      Cannot think of a single easy answer to this enormous planet-wrecking problem.

      • oce 🐆@jlai.lu
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        3 months ago

        The European carbon tax is doing pretty doing good at making the European energy system greener by making fossil fuels less competitive. Renewables are now very competitive.

        If the taxes are redistributed to help the poor buy more sustainable product it may work.