Windows user:
*Complaining about ads on their desktop
Me, a linux enjoyer:
*inhales*
Linux user complaining about having to add repositories manually in order to get a piece of software to update or to add a tool they need.
Me as an any operating system user. Both have draw backs that aren’t for normal people.
I’ve been bombarded with Shit about Linux ever since I signed up here.
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME THE CRAZE BEHIND THIS DAMN OPERATING SYSTEM?!!! I just dont fukin get it! Whats so special about it😭😭
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Windows is a privacy nightmare. The OS is constantly sending data to Microsoft while being used.
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Windows hogs resources. If you don’t shovel money out for new hardware every few years, your computer will run like shit.
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Windows is full of ads.
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The majority of malware is written for Windows. Not really a selling point for me, but it’s a bonus.
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Linux is free.
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Linux doesn’t force updates. You update when you want to, and it takes less than a minute to do.
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Think about why you joined Lemmy. Reddit has been getting greedier and greedier, so you left to a place where the grass is greener. The same thing is true with Windows and Linux (and Linux is also much more big and mature than Lemmy). It attracts the same kind of people.
Oh- huh… I mean Im outta the loop as to what Windows is doing thats so awful as well as what makes Linux so amazing.
@Cock_Inspecting_Asexual Things like, for example, putting ads and tracking into an operating system you paid money for?
I would recommend this though https://mspoweruser.com/windows-12-lite-is-here-and-it-doesnt-have-any-built-in-ads/
I use arch by the way, and I don’t recommend it.
I met a vegan who uses vim and arch linux. I’m that guy. I use vim and arch linux, and I’m a vegan.
I someday hope to meet myself again.
Have you considered CrossFit?
Why is your username blue?
Edit: sorry. You’re OP
Maybe they cook only with an air fryer.
vegoon btw
we be vegooning all night
I’m going to argue that it’s very unlikely any of those people are friends or colleagues. It didn’t ask if you recommend Windows on social media or forums.
We’re not friends? 🥺
Sry, who dis?
Betrayal.
Given your name, I think it’s for the best.
Hey! How dare you discriminate against me for my job! MODS!!! SIEZE THEM
Not to mention your sexuality!! Hey everyone! We got an ace-phobe over here!
are those real? I don’t believe anyone ever said “it’s like linux but it works.”
it does work though, on windows i can see ads and intrusive crap all the time. Linux distros don’t bother you at all, it’s like linux is not even trying at this point.
This makes me want to make a Linux addon just for ads
Like make it entirely transparent Download this is you miss having ads lol
don’t forget to activate your linux distro
I think they’re tongue in cheek.
Oh god
well duh. windows is the default everyone uses, no one needs to recommend it.
linux on the other hand is an obscure choice that may be better for that use case and may not be known.
Windows 11 has changed this, many many people now warn other people about not using Windows 11 because it is such shit. Doesn’t matter what you run, just don’t run Windows 11.
I gotta be honest, I actually really like windows 11.
Recall is awful and I hope enough pressure keeps it away (or at least as something you have to manually turn on). But besides that it’s mostly just windows 10 but better. I get better battery life, better performance, I actually mostly like the UI changes etc.
Also does nobody remember all of the hate for 10 when it first came out?
I literally can’t install Windows 11 on my current computer lol. I know there are workarounds for it but I don’t feel comfortable doing that for my primary computer.
windows 11 isn’ all bad. It made my mother ask me to install linux on her computer.
No one outside of tech communities does that
Even the people I know that are otherwise relatively tech savvy don’t do this.
Not to say it’s a good operating system, though.
That happened with Windows 8 and Vista as well. There was a running joke that every other Windows release was garbage when I was growing up.
I actually really liked both windows 8 and Vista too.
8 was slimmed down and optimized vs 7. Bootup time on my HDD equipped machine halved, performance was better, and the search was so good I never actually saw the start menu because I’d just blindly hit enter and it opened what I wanted.
Vista had a rough start because they basically had to start fresh with drivers. But I bought a nice new machine about a year after it came out and it ran it flawlessly. Aero looked (and still looks) so cool, and XP was just a crusty old OS by then, let alone 2014 when it finally lost support.
That happened with Windows 8 and Vista as well. There was a running joke that every other Windows release was garbage when I was growing up.
And the joke works with 8 and 10 both being shitty, because they skipped 9, which would have been the good one.
They really should have gone with Windows Nine, to bring the naming scheme in line with Xbox One while also avoiding the
startswith.('Windows 9')issue
You will need to after Oct 2025 unless you want Linux or Mac OS
No… I’ve literally only seen this on Lemmy. I’ve never once encountered anyone in real life that does this.
Edit: and to add, people really don’t like this. I love Linux, but hate this community at this point. It’s disingenuous and I see blatant lies all the time about where I’m going to see ads in windows. I’ve yet to see any ads at all so far.
This is hardly a blatant lie.
https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing/get-rid-of-ads-in-your-windows-10-start-menu/ This is from 2015
https://www.cnet.com/tech/who-wants-ads-in-their-windows-11-start-menu-heres-how-to-turn-them-off/ and now
The fact that you haven’t noticed this doesn’t mean its made up
It is interesting but people have different thresholds for what they consider “ads”
I know Ubuntu took some flak for offering their system — was it Ubuntu Pro? — at their login screen. That’s fine with me, but bothers others.
Ubuntu again did it with some music store app in their app search results.
Meanwhile Windows has stuffed Candy Crush, Office, and many others in the start menu over the years. And sometimes it’s not Microsoft but OEMs doing this.
But is crapware “advertising”? Im not sure but it seems like perceptions have shifted at the same time as Microsoft specifically has pushed more and more intrusive ads, and those have moved further to the “advertising” side of that line between suggestion and spam.
Hey, whats so bad about w11?
Obsoleting a lot of relatively recent fast hardware means people are either faced with a fuck off or complicated work arounds. Then there is forcing people to log in with their MS email account which they may not have or want or again forcing people into complicated work arounds. The implicit privacy issues of recall if it was rolled out as planned.
Ads in the windows UI both exiting and planned. The fact that they have discussed the idea of making Windows a monthly/annual fee.
Then the carry overs from 10 The fact that the start menu search is less useful than any linux DE or windows XP Re-enabling crap that people disabled on purpose Certain kinds of links opening in Edge even if people use chrome
Wait i have w11 in my laptop… i dont have a windows account sign in. Is that a forthcoming change?
Ads are fucked, thats fucked.
But it mainly seems like microsoft policy, not necessarily w11 itself is the issue?
I ignorantly think a monthly subscription would never happen and we’d see mass linux adoption.
I have a dual boot in my near term plans for my desktop. I would pull that trigger immediately if ads or subscriptions materialized.
Pro or Home? It looks like home is going to try to force you into a microsoft account a lot harder than pro. There are a couple of tricks to bypass it in the OOBE. But if you do sign into an MS account you can go into settings and there’s a button somewhere to switch to a local account. You’d just have to seek that out and it’s a pain.
iirc it is during install now. You have to do things that are way beyond the average user’s knowledge or ability to enable a local account.
Ads are…already a thing. Shit like putting candy crush which allows you to spend real money to pay to win. Search suggestions in the start menu. The app store is an attempt at an Apple style money grab except the money grab only exists on the apple side because its the only way to get apps on the machine and MS never got much out its store in comparison.
Ads and subscriptions would already have happened if they had succeeded in using secure boot to lock machines out of alternative OS
This meme is older than Windows 11
This meme is older than windows 8
Don’t be so certain - I’d recommend Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC IoT over Windows 11 any day
You can’t get IOT as a consumer
Not with that attitude.
Not legally
You people are coordinated in your recommendations. You are more efficient than the KGB
It might look like that when the topic is Linux vs windows, but if you ever wanna see that coordination fall apart just ask “which distro?”
…Ubuntu.
Definitely start with a nice beginner friendly distro, like Gentoo, NixOS, or LFS.
If we claim we are recommending distros do we escape on a technicality?
The distro IS the OS, so no.
The word distro is a commonly used for Linux distros, where the OS is Linux, I would say.
The kernel is linux. From wikipedia: An operating system (OS) is system software that manages computer hardware and software resources, and provides common services for computer programs.
Linux being designed to work with so many things (and so many things designed to work with linux) all combined make the OS. This is also where the famous quote comes from. https://www.gnu.org/gnu/incorrect-quotation.en.html
I wouldn’t say the OS is Linux any more than the OS of an Apple computer is XNU. Linux is just the kernel. Similarly the other OS isn’t “Windows NT kernel,” but Windows 10 or Windows 11.
unironically: most distros are actually mostly gnu, just with a linux kernel. bit annoyed when people just call it “linux”
No, the OS is a given.
I would always start all conversations with my friends with “Hey Windows peasants!” If I had any friends. These two things have nothing whatsoever to do with each other.
I swear Linux users are borderline jehovah’s witnesses going door to door
hey!.. We’re clearly tech vegans
Isn’t cruelty against animals - specifically one self - a key part of the Linux learning journey?
Ah, but you see, we consented to the cruelty against ourselves.
Cruelty to oneself is part of the Arch journey.
Life is suffering. Once you accept that fact wholly, you may ascend
Why are you still using Windows? Switch to Linux!
Imagine using linux in 2024, TempleOS all the way
After the latest bullshit from Microsoft I would make absolutely sure to recommend literally anything but Windows to everyone that talks to me.
After the latest bullshit from Microsoft
I like how your comment works regardless of whether you consider “latest” to be the past year or the past decade lol.
Fair point. I haven’t used Windows for almost a decade, so maybe a bit of a, a bit of b?
