In light of Nexus Mods and Mod DB banning the No Pronouns mod for Starfield, I figured I would look around for alternative sources and collect them in one place for others’ convenience. This seems like a good place to put them.

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  • This is the first I’m hearing of it and I’m so confused. Is this just at character creation? Why was it removed?

    Is this mod for people who are triggered because the field isn’t free form and the only choices are he/she/they? Or people who are triggered because the sheer existence of a they option is an anathema to their existence?

    Even the argument in the comments is so vague it sheds no light.

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      Is this mod for people who are triggered because the field isn’t free form and the only choices are he/she/they? Or people who are triggered because the sheer existence of a they option is an anathema to their existence?

      People triggered because of a they option in character creation. Basically, for folks like this dude.

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      There is a prominent movement where people don’t want to see LGBTQA+ people anywhere. They don’t want queer people to exist in their world. It makes them very mad to be exposed to the existence of LGBTQA+ people.
      I personally think that they are just some queer people in denial, thinking they are going to catch the gay. Those gay thoughts aren’t going to go away for these people no matter how they cater their reality.

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      There’s no such thing as a non-binary person any more than there is such a thing as personal pronouns. The game can’t make a character into something that literally doesn’t exist.

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        Well the mod you want will not align genetic gender to they’re perceived gender. Also were playing a game that introduces magic… I’m sure you can suspend your believe for pronounce.

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          The mod does what it’s supposed to by removing the nonsensical concept of personal pronouns that doesn’t objectively exist in the real world. A slightly more involved mod would rename body types A and B to male and female and set the appropriate pronouns accordingly. I’ll post that, too, when it comes out.

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            No such thing as objectivity, we live in the abstract and we give meaning. Pronounced are more of a respectful approach, if your friend said “don’t call me “(insert what ever)” I find it is disrespectful”, you’d stop, same for disabilities, where I’m from we had lots of derogatory names for disabled people and most people will not use those names as its disrespectful.

            You are witnessing the natural progression of language, kick and scream all you want but well be there with you or without you

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                I mean, the absurdity of your argument that a sci-fi space rpg can’t meet your standards of “reality” because of a mere ignorable, pre-existing and commonly used pronoun aside, I’m going to have to step in on this particularly low-hanging morsel…

                The rules of English grammar are objective.

                If English grammatical rules were objective, we’d all still be talking the way people did way before Shakespeare. Actually, Shakespeare’s writings wouldn’t exist today if English grammar wasn’t at all subjective because he flat out made up a ton of words and phrases we still use today. Also, you’ve heard of poetry, right?

                “It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” (Macbeth, Act 5, Scene 5)

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                  Which grammar rule changed since Shakespeare’s time? The reason students can still read and understand Shakespeare’s works is that the grammar remains the same. Congratulations, you owned yourself.

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                Yes they are objective but every year a new dictionary comes out with new words and meanings, this is humanity turning the abstract into meaning. I’d like to see you get by with the vocabulary of a 16th century Brit.

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    The right calls people snowflakes and then loses their mind when someone offers an option for pronouns. An option. You can still pick cis pronouns. Gtf outta here.