Critics say the US rushed to evacuate its citizens in Israel last year. For Lebanon, the response has been much slower.

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    No, it is definitely aggressors fault. Palestinians and Lebanese have right to defend themselves, just like Polish Home Army did during 2WW. If the aggressor fuck off back, civilians will stop dying.

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      I’d be really curious to hear what you imagine would happen to the Israeli population if we removed their ability to defend themselves and why it wouldn’t be october 7th times a million?

      You really don’t seem to want to answer this question. I wonder why that is.

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        Israel is an occupying force. 7th Oct would never have happened if Israel had not been commiting genocide and has not been occupying Palestine in the first place.

        This is like arguing that Third Reich may suffer if it withdraws from land it occupied and/or Wehrmacht is disarmed.

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          You’re the one who suggested disarming them. Now I’m asking what do you think is going to happen next.

          You don’t want to answer. We both know why.

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            They should be disarmed just like a criminal thug on the street should be disarmed to stop threaten other people. Israel should then allow all the Palestinians and their descendants to return. It should be forced to rebuild Palestine, Lebanon and pay reparations to all the people who suffered as the consequences of their actions, just like Nazi Germany was forced to.

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              What do you imagine would happen to the Israeli population if we disarmed them, i.e. removed their ability to defend themselves?

              Just answer the question.

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                The same what happened to nazi Germany.

                They will also have to stop murdering their neighbours. Shocking, I know.

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                  Oh, is that so? Well let me introduce you to two common chants we’ve been hearing lately which you are familiar with.

                  “From river to the sea”

                  “God Is the Greatest, Death to America, Death to Israel, A Curse Upon the Jews, Victory to Islam”

                  This isn’t about territory. This is about anti-semitism. It’s not Israel that’s the problem to these extremists, it’s the jews.

                  A genocide is what would happen. A real genocide.

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                    / It’s not Israel that’s the problem to these extremists, it’s the jews.

                    Shut the fuck up. Seriously. These people have been suffering apartheid and slow-burn genocide, accelerating to full-blown genocide last year, and they’re extremist who have a problem with Jews? Are you even listening to yourself?

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                    The slogan From the River to the Sea is about Palestinian liberation that started in the 60s by the PLO for a democratic secular state, not Genocide. The Syrian leader Hafez al-Assad in 1966 maybe, but he’s not Palestinian.

                    It’s absolutely about Zionist Settler Colonialism. Israel has never represented all Jewish people and never will, nor are it’s actions done to benefit all Jewish people. The conflation is itself antisemitic. Adi Callai, an Israeli, does a great analysis of how Antisemitism has been weaponized (see 29:01) by Zionism during its history.