as a high schooler with a special interest in computers, it’s genuinely surprising how poor most of my peers computers skills are. most of my peers don’t even know the very basics of folder structures.
Twenty years ago when I was 13, I started doing web stuff. This was back when everything was super simple, so everything to get a webserver up was super manual. I’ll mention port forwarding at my current job and there’s this slice of people that are 28-40 years old that know what I’m talking about.
I’m slightly younger than that even, currently finishing up my master’s but have been working as a backend dev for a couple of years.
I’ve learned an order of magnitude more about networking from just being in the vicinity of my girlfriend (who is a network technician) than from uni, and it’s definitely already paying off.
I blame google for the demise of well-organized folders. Their approach to email was “chuck it all in one big folder named Archive, and you can search for it using keywords that you will definitely remember when you need to find it again!”
It’s a useful tool, but paved the way for the current state of affairs where people get overwhelmed by their email because they have 150,000 unread emails in their inbox and as a result, don’t read an email until you tell them the entire contents of their email via the inferior messaging platform known as texting.
Idk. I blame Apple, and Android hasn’t done much to really bolster the need for file folders (not a bad thing, just lack of opportunity for learning).
But Apple actively prohibits its user base from engaging with folders, and has been for well over a decade - plenty long enough for my (millennial) generation to phase it out and for the generations after to never need them in the first place. Plus, emails aren’t dependent on file paths, whereas systems file paths are completely necessary.
You may as well have asked this question in 2012 because it’s exactly the same as it was back then, except now there is iCloud. Which in some ways is impressive.
Folders are generic labels, Photos, Documents, Downloads, and within those there is folder structure, but I’ve never seen any Apple user actually utilize them beyond the most basic organizational functions (and even that is not common). Granted, my demographic for the past couple years has been the elderly, but before that I worked with kids and it was basically the same.
If you use Apple products, you don’t need folder structures because you can’t take files off your device easily, it basically has to go through some form of cloud upload, if not iCloud then Google Drive. And you don’t need folder structures for the same reason, cause why are you adding files to your device from somewhere that isn’t iCloud?
This is only like 95% facetious, it’s actually ridiculous how closed off Apple makes their products. By default when you make a spreadsheet with Apple’s software it exports as a .pages file, instead of the actually useful .xls. This is for every. Single. Program. Word files, PowerPoint files, I’m sure there’s even a PDF specific Apple file format.
I have no idea what you are talking about. I have been using macOS for years for nearly a decade and have used a normal folder structure with folders and subfolders just like I use now. Only that macOS allowed the additional tagging with keywords of files and folders, that made searching easier. Granted I stopped using anything more modern than macOS Catalina, because that was the last thing that was supported on my old macbook, and after tinkering with wine, homebrew and the like for a few years I got a new laptop on which I installed linux because the hoops I had to jump through to get most modern software I needed for my studies working was getting absurd; I do have a bone to pick with apple for their software support. So I am definitively not the average macOS user and do not know what they did afterwards with the OS.
But you can use both the apple office suite to export to common microsoft office files or you can install the microsoft suite or libre office or whatever else. And the apple ‘Preview’ to view and edit both images and PDFs was one of the nicest image and pdf viewers I’ve ever used.
And just the usal ways of attaching a file on an email or dumping it on a usb stick worked, if you did not want to use one of the myriad cloud services. So unless apple removed all usb-slots from their hardware or nukes the device once a thumb drive is detected I really do not understand what you are talking about, facetious or not. Hate apple for their planed and enforced obsolescence of otherwise working tech, not for their noncompliance with data formats, or otherwise mostly imagined problems. Stops ranting
as a high schooler with a special interest in computers, it’s genuinely surprising how poor most of my peers computers skills are. most of my peers don’t even know the very basics of folder structures.
also unrelated, let’s all love lain
Twenty years ago when I was 13, I started doing web stuff. This was back when everything was super simple, so everything to get a webserver up was super manual. I’ll mention port forwarding at my current job and there’s this slice of people that are 28-40 years old that know what I’m talking about.
I’m slightly younger than that even, currently finishing up my master’s but have been working as a backend dev for a couple of years.
I’ve learned an order of magnitude more about networking from just being in the vicinity of my girlfriend (who is a network technician) than from uni, and it’s definitely already paying off.
(I’m totally with you though)
I just watched lain some weeks ago without knowing what I have let me into 😂 got pretty confused, but I think in the end I got it. Probably…
I blame google for the demise of well-organized folders. Their approach to email was “chuck it all in one big folder named Archive, and you can search for it using keywords that you will definitely remember when you need to find it again!”
It’s a useful tool, but paved the way for the current state of affairs where people get overwhelmed by their email because they have 150,000 unread emails in their inbox and as a result, don’t read an email until you tell them the entire contents of their email via the inferior messaging platform known as texting.
Idk. I blame Apple, and Android hasn’t done much to really bolster the need for file folders (not a bad thing, just lack of opportunity for learning).
But Apple actively prohibits its user base from engaging with folders, and has been for well over a decade - plenty long enough for my (millennial) generation to phase it out and for the generations after to never need them in the first place. Plus, emails aren’t dependent on file paths, whereas systems file paths are completely necessary.
Wait, with no folders how does apple deal with files these days? I’m a lifelong pc person so I have no idea
You may as well have asked this question in 2012 because it’s exactly the same as it was back then, except now there is iCloud. Which in some ways is impressive.
Folders are generic labels, Photos, Documents, Downloads, and within those there is folder structure, but I’ve never seen any Apple user actually utilize them beyond the most basic organizational functions (and even that is not common). Granted, my demographic for the past couple years has been the elderly, but before that I worked with kids and it was basically the same.
If you use Apple products, you don’t need folder structures because you can’t take files off your device easily, it basically has to go through some form of cloud upload, if not iCloud then Google Drive. And you don’t need folder structures for the same reason, cause why are you adding files to your device from somewhere that isn’t iCloud?
This is only like 95% facetious, it’s actually ridiculous how closed off Apple makes their products. By default when you make a spreadsheet with Apple’s software it exports as a .pages file, instead of the actually useful .xls. This is for every. Single. Program. Word files, PowerPoint files, I’m sure there’s even a PDF specific Apple file format.
I have no idea what you are talking about. I have been using macOS for years for nearly a decade and have used a normal folder structure with folders and subfolders just like I use now. Only that macOS allowed the additional tagging with keywords of files and folders, that made searching easier. Granted I stopped using anything more modern than macOS Catalina, because that was the last thing that was supported on my old macbook, and after tinkering with wine, homebrew and the like for a few years I got a new laptop on which I installed linux because the hoops I had to jump through to get most modern software I needed for my studies working was getting absurd; I do have a bone to pick with apple for their software support. So I am definitively not the average macOS user and do not know what they did afterwards with the OS.
But you can use both the apple office suite to export to common microsoft office files or you can install the microsoft suite or libre office or whatever else. And the apple ‘Preview’ to view and edit both images and PDFs was one of the nicest image and pdf viewers I’ve ever used. And just the usal ways of attaching a file on an email or dumping it on a usb stick worked, if you did not want to use one of the myriad cloud services. So unless apple removed all usb-slots from their hardware or nukes the device once a thumb drive is detected I really do not understand what you are talking about, facetious or not. Hate apple for their planed and enforced obsolescence of otherwise working tech, not for their noncompliance with data formats, or otherwise mostly imagined problems. Stops ranting
As a user you can’t access the filesystem. It’s completely abstracted away. At least this was the case for the iPhone 6