The camera size is already huge in iPhone 14 Pro that it doesn’t sit well on MagSafe Duo Charger wishing that they figured out a way to at least keep the size to how it currently is but it looks like there’s no getting around it. It looks like it’s gonna be bigger than 45mm Apple Watch at this point.

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    I understand that the camera is a big reason for new iPhone sales but I could care less. The camera has met my expectations for several generations now. I hate how much weight it adds to the top of my phone. Makes it feel unbalanced in my hand.

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      “I hate how much weight it adds to the top of my phone. Makes it feel unbalanced in my hand”

      I doubt it does. I just used a fulcrum to find the center of mass on my iPhone 13 Pro and it actually seems like the lower half of the iPhone is a bit heavier, which makes makes sense given the internals of the device. That being said it’s off center by like 1/8 of an inch at the most so it actually seems well balanced. If you made the camera smaller it’d make the phone LESS balanced than it is.

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        Doubt what? It’s not an opinion. I’m literally holding my iPhone right now and it is top heavy if you try to balance it in the center.

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          I doubt that your iPhone is noticeably top heavy, if even at all. It just doesn’t sound like a plausible design flaw that Apple would somehow miss. It’s just too easy to compensate for any weight added by the camera module with the much heavier components located below-center of the device, like the battery. I was curious though so I measured my iPhone 13 Pro with an identically sized camera module as the 14 and my phone is actually very slightly bottom heavy, but the margin is also so small there’s no way I or anyone else could actually tell without measuring.

          It might be more of a perceived effect than a physical one if anything. Like it feels top heavy because you can see the camera module but not the internal parts in the lower part of phone.

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            Nah, it’s top heavy for sure. My source is physics because like I said, I’m holding it in my hand right now and it won’t balance on center because the top is heavier. As to weather it’s noticeable, that is entirely subjective so I’m not sure how you think you can just say you don’t believe I’m feeling the way I’m feeling.

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    I just don’t understand why they don’t just make the phone thicker and have a flush camera. Does it really make such a difference?

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          Instead of one small part of the phone being slightly thicker, a part where you hand doesn’t even touch and it genuinely doesn’t matter, you’d rather the entire phone be thicker, making it take up more space in you hand and pocket. Then you’d have to do something with all this extra space you’ve wasted, so the phone will have to get heavier and use more materials to make.

          And in return for worse ergonomics, cost, space efficiency, and overall aesthetics, all we get is a… smooth back? Which amounts to an ARGUABLY improved different aesthetic that affects less of the overall design than the thickness does? That sounds like the worst trade deal in the history of trade deals. That’s like putting square tires on a Jeep because it arguably matches the overall shape of the vehicle lol. Especially since most people have cases on their phones which could easily make up for the difference in thickness anyway.

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          What would you fill all that extra space with?

          Empty air? How is having empty air inside the phone better than having empty air outside the phone?

          A larger battery? So you can charge every second day instead of every day? I don’t think that’d be an improvement, it would almost certainly result in forgetting to charge your phone and you’d be more likely to have it go flat on you. Also batteries are extremely heavy.

          A silicone protective coating? Also known as a phone case. This is really the only one that makes sense, and you can already do it.

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            Bro how tf would a bigger battery result in it dying more often? What u smoking and where can I find

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              If you don’t need to charge your iPhone ever night, then you won’t charge it every night. And sometimes you’ll forget to charge it two nights in a row, and then your battery won’t last the day.

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      The 14P (~200g, if I remember correctly, feels even heavier) is one of the heaviest phones I ever owned, especially compared to my 12 before it, but even compared to my Xs, which already felt heavy at the time. In the past I always agreed with statements of „just make the phone thicker“ for more battery, or to hide the bump. But with the 14P I cannot agree: just make the bump smaller an reduce weight.

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        I mean I agree about not making it thicker to flatten the back, but I have to disagree about making the camera smaller (if that means a sacrifice to quality. This is specifically a pro phone. Now admittedly, it’s not just for professionals and whether it deserves that name is up for debate. But the fact is, this is specifically meant to be the best. So imo, if you want something lighter, buy the lighter non-pro

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          So imo, if you want something lighter, buy the lighter non-pro

          I’d argue being lighter is a feature, and one that I’d personally be happy to pay a premium for. The original MacBook Air was something like a thousand dollars more expensive than the MacBook for example (and I bought/loved that MacBook Air).

          For example professional bicycles are usually hand laid carbon fibre. It costs a fortune and it’s worse than a metal frame in every way (except weight), but people still pay for it, because weight matters.

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            And you’re absolutely correct. Being light is a feature. It’s a feature of the non-pro. The fact is, putting more, better components in will make the phone heavier. And the point of the pro is to have more features and be the better phone. Unlike a racing bicycle which very specifically has to be light. And also unlike the MacBook Air which again, the entire purpose of which was to be thin and light. I completely agree that being light is a feature, just not here.