• jkure2@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Is that the one who has seven wives or whatever even though that’s supposed to be not allowed?

    You can see him struggling with the “they touch you, but not the other way around” rule 😅

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      Yes it is. Ki Adi Mundi. Possibly the worst person in the entire Jedi Order.

      The deal with him having wives and kids is that Cerean males are so rare that to remove one from the gene pool would be wildly irresponsible. They make an exception, basically, so that he can attend to what is seen as a vital contribution to the survival of his people.

      Unfortunately, he takes the whole “no attachments” thing very literally. He doesn’t actually give a single shit about anyone in his family. To the point where they all get killed and the only way anybody even finds out it happened is when he gives Anakin a “you don’t hear me crying about it, do you?” speech emphasizing how little the deaths of dozens of wives and daughters affected him.

      He’s an absolute trashbag of a person, but somehow he qualifies as a Master. What a fuckin’ joke.

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        It’s nice to reflect on how as a little kid I went and saw episodes 2 and 3 in theaters and thought the Jedi were so freaking cool man - then coming back to the series 20 years later having developed politics and realize the Jedi are pretty blatantly a corrupt, listless, doomed-by-its-own-inadequacy organization starting at the top.

        Palpatine/fascism are the bad guys but the Jedi are certainly not the good guys, in a way that went ten miles over my head at the time lol. These movies deserve more credit imo

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          “Starting at the top” is especially true. I would argue that most if not all of the failures of the late-Republic Jedi can be laid entirely at Yoda’s feet.

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        The whol “no attachments” thing. Ironically the whole concept of the force is being attached, to everything.

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          Yeah. I feel like Avatar: the Last Airbender did a better job of explaining how that is supposed to work than the Jedi Order ever did.

          “What? Two Chakras ago love was a good thing!”

          Here’s my take on it: love is a good thing. Attachments that you can’t accept life without are a bad thing.

          Anakin suffers not because he loves Padme, but because he can’t accept that she is mortal, or even that she could divorce his arrogant ass at any time. It’s not the fact that he has attachments that leads him to the Dark Side. It’s the fact that he would be destroyed by the loss of his attachments that does.

          If he could have balanced his love for Padme with the acceptance that she was, ultimately, temporary, then he would have been able to have both, safely. We know this because Jedi families – even whole-ass Jedi dynasties – were a thing in the Old Republic. Notice how Nomi Sunrider has descendants kicking around well into the New Republic era, and she never fell.

          Too much love, not enough acceptance, and you get Darth Vader. Too much acceptance, not enough love, and you get Ki Adi Mundi (see above re: why he is a terrible person).

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      This doesn’t happen in the movie, but the joke is about a version where Anakin takes the seat that’s already occupied by a hologram. It’s as if he’s sitting in his lap. It’s just silly.