• Lord_ToRA@lemmy.world
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    Fuck WordPress.com. They intentionally lead people to conflate the free and open-source software WordPress (WordPress.org) and their own proprietary and overpriced version.

    You can’t install plugins on their platform until you pay them $40/mo ($25/mo if you pay annually). That’s one of the most expensive WordPress hosting out there and it’s a completely different proprietary version with less access and control than you’d find elsewhere for far less.

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      You know that they made the software in the first place, right? As in, the WP.org people and the WP.com people are the same people.

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        No, they are not the same people. Automattic is owned by one of the creators of WordPress and they donate some work to the open source project, but they are two entirely separate entities.

        WordPress.org is a non-profit organization and Automattic is a for-profit business. Legally they have to be separate and different. Though, that doesn’t stop them from influencing the WP org to promote their ‘free’ plugins over others that are often mostly advertisements for their paid services.

        WP Engine provides more development work to the non-profit than Automattic does.

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          The guy who, in the first place, came up with the idea for a fork of b2/cafelog (which would come to be known as WordPress), is Matt Mullenweg. He’s still the lead developer of the open-source WordPress project to this day, 20 years later.

          It is true that Mullenweg’s company Automattic gave the WordPress trademark to the WordPress Foundation in 2010. The founder of said foundation is the very same Matt Mullenweg. It is not the case that Automattic and the Foundation “legally […] have to” be separate, that’s a choice that Automattic/Mullenweg made.

          It is a fact that without Mullenweg, WordPress would not exist, period (neither .org nor .com). Mullenweg/Automattic do not only “[influence] the WP org”, they created (and still lead!) the WP org.

          Of course, I’m sure WP Engine is a fine host, and all the better that they also contribute back to the WP project (that’s the power of open source!).

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        It should work, I was more commenting on another missed opportunity to bring the platform name to the mainstream audience.

        Mastodon is more or less well-known nowadays thanks to articles talking about it for years, it would be nice to have the same for Lemmy

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        The only way to know for sure is to test. I found I could subscribe to peertube channels using lemmy, but that wasn’t intended and just a happy side effect of the common activitypub protocol.

        I recall seeing new videos and being able to comment but not be able to create new posts that would federate since that wouldn’t make a lot of sense.

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        Depends on if they expose Person actors or Group actors. (so, probably not considering it doesn’t make much sense to consider a blog as a Group)

        In theory a blog could xpost to a Lemmy community via mentioning it but I have no idea if Wordpress does mentions like that.

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          In WordPress, one blog can have many authors, so it does make sense to consider it a group

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        Doesn’t make it good. But really the worst part is the vast sea of poorly made plugins and themes, other than the concept of ‘everything is a post’ that puts nearly all of the data into a single database table. You know, instead of a sane system that stores different data types in separate tables and manages the relationships with an ORM.

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          SAP is also popular, and nobody is actually known on planet Earth to have anything positive to say about it.

          I figure their marketing department hires some really good call girls. Only explanation I can fathom.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Earlier this year, WordPress.com owner Automattic acquired a plugin that allowed WordPress blogs to be followed in the fediverse — the decentralized social networks that include the Twitter rival Mastodon and others.

    As a result, it launched version 1.0.0 of the plugin, allowing WordPress blogs to be followed on Mastodon and other fediverse apps.

    That means anyone using the hosted version of the open-source WordPress software now has the ability to tie into the fediverse, connecting their blog to federated platforms like Mastodon, Pleroma, Friendica, and others.

    By using the plugin, the blog itself can also become the user’s profile in the fediverse, instead of having to set up an account directly on a federated app, like Mastodon.

    To implement the plugin on Free, Personal, and Premium WordPress.com hosted sites, you simply head into the Discussion section with Settings from the blog’s dashboard and enable the toggle titled “Enter the fediverse.” From there, you’ll make note of your default fediverse name, which references the blog’s domain (e.g. “openprotocolfanblog.wordpress.com@openprotocolfanblog.wordpress.com.”) That profile can then be shared with others so they can follow it on Mastodon or other platforms.

    That could expand the fediverse’s numbers, as well, given that Automattic’s own statistics indicate that over 409 million people view more than 20 billion pages each month on WordPress.com websites.


    The original article contains 474 words, the summary contains 215 words. Saved 55%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

  • Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee
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    I’ve been following my own wordpress site from pixelfed and mastodon for months… Why is this news?