cross-posted from: https://lemmy.stad.social/post/20808

I’m shocked. Shocked, I tell you. I’d never imagine that nice Mr. Musk would do that… Oh? He’s been a total ass to workers at his other companies too you say? No, say it isn’t so…

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    1 year ago

    Technology doesn’t spring from the ground from nothing. Labor in tech is still important tech news.

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      1 year ago

      Not when it’s just another article about Musk being shitty. This isn’t news, and I doubt anyone is shocked that he fired someone illegally.

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      by that reasoning we don’t need magazines since it’s all part of the same universe.

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          I wasn’t trying to put a show for you. I only followed the stupid claim to it’s stupid conclusion.

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            “X is not in category Y”

            “X creates Y and is relevant. X news is still important Y news”

            “By that reasoning we don’t need X since it’s all a part of Y”

            Your conclusion is entirely non-sequitur to anything anyone else has said. Whether your original post was right or wrong, your reasoning is nonsense.

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              The mental gymnastics people go through to miss the point. I will try to make thos short so you don’t get confused again. Non tech news should be shared in generic news or specific groups related to the topic.

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                I was never arguing that. I’m arguing that your “we don’t need magazines since it’s all part of the same universe” is complete nonsense that’s not relevant to anything being stated.

                Though if I’m gonna argue about your initial point, you’re also wrong and foolish there, albeit it to a lesser degree. Unfortunately X, the platform formerly known as some shit, is a “Big Tech” company. In fact it’s one of the biggest. Now, you may or may not be familiar with this, but the “Tech” in “big tech” is short for “technology”, marking Twitter, the platform formerly known as shit, a monolith in an extremely large and broad industry.

                As a result, that which is news-worthy for such a monolith is precisely what technology forums such as !technology@lemmy.world are for. It would also be relevant if Facebook lost 50% of its valuation in a day. It would also be relevant if Instagram started giving employees free heroine. It would also be relevant if Google harvested all the world’s oysters in search of black pearls.

                These companies are so large they they, defacto, are tech in a manner of speaking. Just because you’re tired of hearing about some rich dork whose racist father hates him, the man formerly known as Eyore Must or something, doesn’t mean that it’s any less of a tech company, and doesn’t make news about it any less “about tech” as an industry.

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        That actually makes zero sense. Labor builds and creates the tech that people talk about. That makes labor extremely important to tech.

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          that makes zero sense. without a universe to live in we can’t even have labor.

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            What are you on about?

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              the point hes trying to make is that just because x relies on y, that doesnt make y relevant to the topic of x.

              so labor, while needed for tech, doesnt belong in tech. just like if i started posting about food shortages here, i could argue that food is needed for tech, but it does not belong in tech.

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                Food shortages at the google campus would belong in tech.

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                  i accidentally deleted instead of edited my coment:

                  original:

                  i dont agree. thats not about technology. thats about the people at a tech-related loction not being able to eat. thats the lacroix of tech news if anything.


                  i think id be fine with even something like this or even this musk news if it wasnt in such high volume from something so indirect to actual technology posts. the frequency of these is so tiring.

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                    Yeah, it feels like the tech industry is on repeat these last few months.

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                  i dont agree. thats not about technology. thats about the people at a tech-related loction not being able to eat. thats the lacroix of tech news if anything.