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      You really should listen to Dan Carlin’s podcasts. (Even if it’s not for the sake of this discussion, his content is unmatched)

      I really don’t care about your religious podcast, especially one that tries to whitewash slavery.

      It’s not like it comes with more pay like a job. It’s basically just more work.

      It does come with pay, as well and power and influence.

      Because that’s what you’re choosing to hear. You’re ignoring all the other things I’ve said.

      I’m hearing reality and ignoring the delusional falsehoods you’re saying, yes.

      You’re also ignoring the part where women slaves could be forced to marry their masters, where men could not.

      But they were completely equal, right?

      Anything with abuse is abuse and is abhorrent. The Bible says as much.

      I didn’t say that for the part where it says how you can beat your slave.

      It didn’t say that for the part about dashing babies into rocks.

      It didn’t say that for child murder.

      No, the Bible records it. The Bible also places a huge emphasis on showing love to your neighbour and your enemy.

      Oh, I see. When something supports agenda then it’s the bible’s core message, but when something doesn’t look to good for it, then it’s just recorded in it, and also out of context.

      How convenient.

      If you haven’t noticed, the bible frequently contradicts itself.

      No one here ever said slavery of any kind was good. Not in the slightest. You might be confusing your preconceptions for something I said.

      Huh, so this wasn’t a quote used by you?

      “In fact, there were cases in which, from a slave’s point of view, the stability of servitude under a family in which the slave was well-treated would have been preferable to economic freedom.”

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          LMAO! Dan Carlin is far from religious, and the last thing he does is whitewash anything. In fact, the stuff he talks about is blood curdling and may even make you vomit everywhere.

          Sure bud, I’ll rephrase. I really don’t care about your totally non-religious podcast, especially one that tries to whitewash indentured servitude.

          If you’re referring to those mega churches and people like the Duggars, then ya. I agree with you there and agree that’s wrong.

          Them too. But you only need to look at how the christian churches protect pedophiles and abusers, help them escape the law and reoffend again to see how much power and influence they get.

          Plus, the catholic church alone is worth billions, with land holdings, historical artifacts, etc.

          Becoming a high-ranking member grants you influence over your underlings and delusional people, food and shelter for the rest of your life, etc.

          You know well that this is about judicial punishment. If a slave murders someone, for example

          Feel free to quote the verse where it says you can only beat slaves as judicial punishment.

          No. It’s a reality and a fact that not every single word in the Bible is a commandment. There has to be context and even just basic information about events, people, cultures, etc.

          And that context just happens to be in form of direct commandments. Oops.

          Is it a good thing that people go on welfare, or is it preferable to starving? Again, this is where we get into the definition of the word. Think about it, how would it be preferable to be mistreated, beaten, and abused?

          I think plenty of people would prefer to be poor and free then to be fed and a slave.

          But if you think otherwise, would you be in favor of putting all homeless and poor people in involuntary servitude? Since it’s preferable to welfare and starving, according to you.

          And then of course there’s all the homophobia in the bible, but that seems to be a positive to people such as you who support sex based discrimination.

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              All of this is true. Hence why the “children” (these acts of abuse) of Babylon the Great (false religion) need to be dashed against a wall.

              Of course.

              And when the bible says all homosexuals must be killed, what metaphor is that? Or is it missed context?

              You have staked your arguments to be the complete opposite of what I have to say.

              I tend to do that when the person I’m arguing against supports such despicable things.

              The fact that you immediately dismissed Hardcore History as a “religious podcast” and still maintain that it “whitewashes” anything, all without even looking up the podcast

              I looked up dan carlin and he has a some christian podcast called Word Christian Fellowship podcast. But sure, not religious or bias.

              telling that you are unable to be objective in the slightest in this discussion.

              Unable to be objective by agreeing with you that slavery was a good thing? Are you listening to yourself?

              (which tops Podcast charts in multiple categories, primarily history)

              Are you his publicist or something? You’re trying really hard so sell his stuff.

              It seems your forgot to answer this:

              Is it a good thing that people go on welfare, or is it preferable to starving? Again, this is where we get into the definition of the word. Think about it, how would it be preferable to be mistreated, beaten, and abused?

              I think plenty of people would prefer to be poor and free then to be fed and a slave.

              But if you think otherwise, would you be in favor of putting all homeless and poor people in involuntary servitude? Since it’s preferable to welfare and starving, according to you.

              And then of course there’s all the homophobia in the bible, but that seems to be a positive to people such as you who support sex based discrimination.