Coworker. I told him to fuck off with his conspiracy bullshit. But back when I patronized him, one thing he said was that he didn’t consider belief a binary as in that you either believe something or don’t. He viewed all beliefs as a continuum. You can believe one thing 10% and another thing 90%, but he wouldn’t let me pin him down as to whether he “believed” any particular thing or not.

All while trying to convince me “tall white aliens” run the U.S. government and Sandy Hook was faked by a bunch of actors and the U.S. military had invisibility technology and planes that aren’t dumping weather-controlling chemicals don’t leave trails in the sky. Pretty standard QAnon-level bullshit. But if I asked him if he believed any of those things, he wouldn’t answer. Honestly, it makes sense as a dishonest rhetorical tactic.

Dude also literally drinks borax in his juice cleanse drink.

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    Jesus christ, where do I even begin? I have parents who are conspiracy nuts, so this’ll be quite a list. There’s a difference between my mom, step dad, and oldest little brother, though, as two of them believe in more occult crap.

    Well, here we go…

    • Chemtrails. Also HAARP. For some reason “they” are constantly trying to control the weather. Somehow it involves better controlling the population. There was also the idea that Chemtrails seeded clouds to then rain chemicals onto people that’ll keep them complacent and controlled.
    • During the Syrian mass immigration crisis; “they” are trying to replace us with a more complacent population to control us better.
    • Vaccines are a scam to create a more complacent population, or is a means of population control, or is transhumanism and transhumanism is bad.
    • By extention, COVID-19 exists only as a scare tactic. A frightened, scared population is a complacent population more easily controlled.
    • Global warming is a scare tactic, and same as COVID-19, exists only keep the population scared and complacent.
    • Most wars, especially the “war on terrorism” by George W. Bush, is a scare tactic… Yadda yadda complacent, controlled, etc…
    • NATO is an expansionist, imperialist organisation to consolidate all power in one place for better control. It forces members to join it either through coercion or passive aggressive pressure. Russia only defending itself.
    • The military (which military?) has far more advanced technology than what’s available to the public. Such as anti-gravity drones and thought suppression antennas.
    • Every action, event, political decision, election, or organisation is always caused by a shadowy group of people who are the ones really in control of everything. A shadow government. They control truly everything, and their actions are done in order… To… Control… Everything… Yeah, not a really thought out one, this one is. But the basis for all the other conspiracies, and the “they” or “them” always refers to this.
    • The Rothschild family is part of “them”, the most powerful family in all of history! (probably forgot about the Hapsburgs).
    • They will never give true medicine to the world, as a means of keeping the population controlled. All medicine exists to keep you reliant on them.
    • Homeopathy is the medicine “they” don’t want you to use.
    • “They” are hoarding ancient, advanced technology.
    • “They” are suppressing archeology, in case any “true” history comes to light, such as those involving highly advanced precursor races.
    • The Smithsonian museum is hiding skeletons and archaeological findings that don’t fit with “established, mainstream archeology”, such as skeletons of a giant, highly advanced precursor race. Yes, they like David Icke. How could you tell?
    • There are ways of generating free energy that “they” don’t want you to know, but ancient civilisations did. Such as the Egyptians who built pyramids as huge power plants. They’re either plasma fusion plants, pizo-electric generators producing energy from Earth’s vibrations, or some kind of funny triangular rock that in its exact configuration can generate power from the Earth’s lay-lines.

    There’s probably a lot more, but I’m tired of typing all this out.

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      They probably are right with the military thing, i do believe that militaries around the world do have some cutting edge tech that isnt publicly available whilst it still gives them an edge over an enemy, but fairly ‘mundane’ shit like slightly better night vision goggles and sonar. (Mundane as in the general public wouldnt care, not that it wouldnt be super interesting from a technical POV).

      Also i think there is a big factor that is keeping a large chunk of populations worldwide more complacent. It isnt a collective organised operation but simply… shitty low-nutrient and calorie dense fast food & junk snacks and being a bit more lazy & complacent is just a side effect of people running their bodies and minds on sub-standard food.

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        I’m pretty sure nowadays it is 90% high performance cryptography tech. Protecting state secrets, Intel, and surveillance intelligence is like #1 priority for a few different governments since all of the big powers have been hacking each other (or trying to) since the dawn of the internet lol

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          high performance cryptography tech

          We have proof that the NSA and others have made discoveries way before anyone else (like the NSA with the DES algorithm, or weird stuff during WW2), but it’s because they have the best mathematicians. I have noticed that the truth is always too boring for them and they always seek something deeper or more magical like Harry Potter.

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      Some of these have been around for a while or remind me of some, my crunchy new-age grandparents were hardcore into the NWO order stuff. Some others I recall

      • NWO stuff: North America would become the North American Union and forcefully adopt the Amero as currency. This was the pretext for the eventual merging of the EU and NAU to start total domination, pretty sure the UN was involved in this one.
      • Stargates are real and the the US has bases on the moon as well as Mars
      • Some water alignment thing, that you can put a logogram or something under a glass of water and that changes its properties to be better (‽??)
      • The Philadelphia Experiment
      • Roswell is responsible for technological leaps, and the powers that be have been slowly releasing things to evade suspicion
      • Mayan calendar stuff
      • Hardcore distrust of medical doctors and hospitals
      • Fluoride - mind control, it’s a neuro toxin!

      There’s others but those stick out.

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        Oh yeah, my parents certainly believe Stargate is created by artists trying casually reveal “the truth”, not in a literal sense, but one that is very open to interpretation. Somehow (and especially to my mom) if some artist, like a singer or a writer, creates something that is adjacent to her beliefs she’ll feel validated about them.

        The tech being drip-fed into the public is also one, connected directly to the one where “the military” has super advanced technology.

        And same with water. My parents already believe in homeopathy, and everything that comes with it. So water has a special “memory” that can somehow be imprinted and change its properties. Same goes with influencing water with sound or light.

        And of course, they have INSANE distrust for doctors. Or literally anyone in a professional position. I think, with their beliefs, if you’re in a professional position you’re part of the system that hides and lies to the population, a mandate of “them” in control, to keep everyone stupid and complacent. So anyone in a professional position is an enemy, a malicious entity out to get you.