They’re now projecting:

  • Liberal majority with 61.4%
  • Liberal minority with 32%
  • Con majority with 1%
  • Con minority with 5.5%
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    How the fuck is there so much conservative support in this country? How did people get so fucking stupid?

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    As exciting as it is to see that Canadians aren’t as stupid as our neighbours, this is only a poll. We have to vote, and vote like our country is at stake, because none of us want to be voting for a PRESIDENT in our next election.

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    Liberal majority with 61.4%

    With this, the prospect of electoral reform seems bleak.

    But it looks better than the alternative with 1% chance.

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      The best we’re going to get is ranked ballot. At the very least it would avoid vote splitting, so that’s a positive.

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    You can see people swapping from NDP to Liberal. Whats really interesting is how little Conservative voters are changing.

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      I want NDP but we have to win against cons first. NDP can wait.

      Btw libs, time to knock off the gun control letters. I just got another one (for a model I don’t even own).

      They should be explicitly endorsing responsible firearm ownership now given the enemy at the gate.

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      There is a ten percent drop in Conservative support since November 24. That’s a fifth of their numbers.

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      There is a tiny drop from November to today, but yes it’s mostly NPD voters (That’s their name in Québec ^^) and a little drop in the BQ towards the Libéral Party.

      People on the broader left are unifying under the Liberals to counter PP now that Trudeau is gone.

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      Whats really interesting is how little Conservative voters are changing.

      Not really.

      Conservative brains are way more locked down, while center and left brains are more open to change, and know what needs to be done to better everyone’s lives. It’s pretty much in the name “conservative” and “liberal”.

      If you look at the exit polls from the election down south, it’s pretty wild how definitive republicans are with certain statements, even when those statements are demonstrably untrue.

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      Good question, and thanks for the link to 338. I’m in an ndp stronghold and happy with my mp.

      Would still switch if I needed to to avoid a split vote. I’m sure there are many others who feel the same.

      I would hate hate hate to vote strategically, but it’s fpp and this feels like a time when it’s necessary.

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    The shocking inability of left-wing parties worldwide to capitalize on literally anything is mystifying to me. How little that seems to trigger self-reflection is, sadly, not.

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      It’s far easier to get people on side with hate and rhetoric than being nice and public policy.

      Scrapping the carbon tax was a great first step, but I’d love to see them take every single dollar assigned to F35 fighters and put it all into healthcare and healthy school meals for kids (see how Japan does it right).

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        So why is the left not pushing hate and rhetoric?

        I don’t give a crap how they do it, I just care about them actually having some degree of policty control. It’s called politics, they should try it sometime.

        It’s not like there aren’t left-friendly targets for hate, and yet left-wing parties have been remarkably incompetent at pushing the same demagoguery on billionaires or corporations than the right uses for migrants or trans people.

        Once again, deflection instead of self-assessment. The dog ate my campaign strategy, apparently.

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          Hate is a pretty shallow thing.

          I have no time at all for pushing hate agendas by any party. I don’t hate billionaires, corporations, police, politicians, or even trump and elon. I sure have contempt for them and would love them gone, but not hate.

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            But I don’t care about you. I care about winning elections.

            You seem already convinced, which makes you irrelevant. It’s about building a mass movement that is zealously on board. Even if you were lost to the cause, that’d be a good move if ten people came in to replace you.

            So what is it? Is hate “far easier to get people on side”, or is it a fruitless “shallow thing”? Either way it’s been incompetently mismanaged by leftist movements, with fascist extremists successfully leveraging it to excite and engage voters, and younger ones especially, while left-wing parties languish.

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      It’s incredibly difficult in a media landscape controlled by capitalists, unfortunately. And there’s been very little effective action in creating mainstream alternatives to capitalist news media.

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        And this, kids, is what this “lack of self-reflection” thing looks like in the wild.

        Students should start trying to “it’s not me, it’s capitalism” their grades. It’s an airtight defense.

        And, for the record, the rise of neofascism was built on the rhetorical template of a grassroots 4chan sexist psyop. It’s not capitalism.