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  • AllHailTheSheep@sh.itjust.works
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    18 hours ago

    its still not a small amount of storage. and no, there’s still not really sd cards or flash drives bigger than 1tb, but obviously even if there were and they were super cheap, that would still never suffice as server storage. plus, if you’re hosting a node you’d want at least 4 or 5 times that storage to use a raid 5 or 6 array + at least one onsite backup, and one off-site backup.

    now we’re talking thousands of dollars in equipment just for storage, not the actual server itself, internet connection, etc.

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      You literally just described my Jellyfin, minus the raid because I don’t feel like setting it up. Think all in all I’m down about $1200 for it. Not thousands. You do realized a 12TB NAS drive is $200, right? Only reason my build cost as much is because I have a few 2TB ssds in there which were just leftovers from the PC anyways. I could’ve done it all for $500.

      Off-site backup isn’t required. Nice, but not required at all. In the literal sense, you don’t need it. It’s good to have, but an extra.

      So yeah, 5TB, literally the only metric I was discussing, isn’t much. Maybe in the future the person should say all the nuance and not “5TB is unreasonable for the average person”. It’s not. Plain and simple.

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        6 hours ago

        maybe your hobbiest server doesn’t need a off-site backup but an instance of a massive social media network expected to be used by many users absolutely will. and sorry, but your nas simply will not cut it as far as throughput goes. it’s just not designed for that much activity.

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          49 minutes ago

          You keep missing the point so hard I think it’s intentional.

          First off, necessary and recommended are two very different things. 4chan running for the last decade on outdated software with no backups is proof that you absolutely can run things without a backup. It’s not wise, but not REQUIRED.

          Secondly, OP was up there acting like 5Tb is prohibitively expensive and is gonna keep instances from being made. As me and other hobbyist have pointed out, 5tb is a joke. Those of us running little bullshit servers have WAY more. So asking someone trying to set up a social media server to have 5TB is nothing. If that seems like a lot to you, then you shouldn’t even try because it’s clearly way beyond your depth.

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            you’re even more missing the point. the cost of the CPU needed to run such a server is going to be more than the cost of storage by a large amount. it’s not about the storage, and it’s certainly not something most can do, otherwise we wouldn’t be here arguing over it cause someone would’ve already done it lol