It is, you aren’t wrong. But the invisible eye of corporate Discord is not the same. Discord makes you feel like you are in your own space. I found from the servers I am in on Matrix it feels, decidedly less like that. Revolt is a 1 to 1 replacement for discord that is lacking a lot of features. I’d push people to that over Matrix if they are used to discord and just want that again. I’m not even gonna mention Guilded to people.
Yeah I can see what you mean. Even if it is just a sectioned off bit of the glob of discord servers, a discord instance does feel like an island in a way that a matrix space does not. Last I remember using them it was still a little messy in ways that felt strange too. The real struggle is having folks to check them out with considering many of my friend group already had to be talked into trying discord lol.
Edit: I think I read two comments at once. I dont have the brain capacity to sort it out sorry.
I get that but that isolation you get in the “server” you make on Discord does make people feel they are on their own island. Especially tech illiterate people. You can get the same in Matrix. But the way Matrix does things is just different. And it feels like the spaces aren’t as isolated. Maybe thats just because I have only experienced Matrix through the admin side and Synapse
My main experience with it was setting up a little space on the matrix.org server. We could in theory venture out into the broader server, but never really bothered. So it definitely wasn’t exactly discord, but worked well for our needs of having a couple rooms and the option to hop into a persistent video/voice room with jitsi.
I’ve never touched the server side, but I am a little curious, especially with the QR account creation someone else mentioned. Not needing to walk folks through logging into another service, and instead just having it be a webpage they visit that stays working would be rad. How did you find running the server?
I get told I’m a Russian hacker when I post it and people are faced with my “did you download Element or some sort of client?” page. The QR was something we chose not to setup as it seemed to not work too well, at least with our server.
Running it is pretty easy, we have a little service in a space that we can send commands to and we dont even have to login to synapse. The guy making the real magic on the backend setup some sort of s3 buckets and that made data management a breeze. I like it, but discord user features still kick the shit out of Matrix.
Fair enough, yeah I might still dabble in trying it out if I find the time. I just hate adds and apps to a pathological degree, so if discord gets too gross I wanna know how hard it would be to jump ship lol. Thanks for the insights!
not everyone needs to host their own server. just choose an existing one that’s not matrix. org (which is basically overloaded)
You do if you want a replacement for “your own discord server”
“your own discord server” was never a server, just a blatant lie, or “marketing” term. in matrix spaces are the equivalent (or similar) feature
Isn’t replicating this the goal of spaces? How are those doing on matrix?
It is, you aren’t wrong. But the invisible eye of corporate Discord is not the same. Discord makes you feel like you are in your own space. I found from the servers I am in on Matrix it feels, decidedly less like that. Revolt is a 1 to 1 replacement for discord that is lacking a lot of features. I’d push people to that over Matrix if they are used to discord and just want that again. I’m not even gonna mention Guilded to people.
Yeah I can see what you mean. Even if it is just a sectioned off bit of the glob of discord servers, a discord instance does feel like an island in a way that a matrix space does not. Last I remember using them it was still a little messy in ways that felt strange too. The real struggle is having folks to check them out with considering many of my friend group already had to be talked into trying discord lol.
Edit: I think I read two comments at once. I dont have the brain capacity to sort it out sorry.
I get that but that isolation you get in the “server” you make on Discord does make people feel they are on their own island. Especially tech illiterate people. You can get the same in Matrix. But the way Matrix does things is just different. And it feels like the spaces aren’t as isolated. Maybe thats just because I have only experienced Matrix through the admin side and Synapse
My main experience with it was setting up a little space on the matrix.org server. We could in theory venture out into the broader server, but never really bothered. So it definitely wasn’t exactly discord, but worked well for our needs of having a couple rooms and the option to hop into a persistent video/voice room with jitsi.
I’ve never touched the server side, but I am a little curious, especially with the QR account creation someone else mentioned. Not needing to walk folks through logging into another service, and instead just having it be a webpage they visit that stays working would be rad. How did you find running the server?
I get told I’m a Russian hacker when I post it and people are faced with my “did you download Element or some sort of client?” page. The QR was something we chose not to setup as it seemed to not work too well, at least with our server.
Running it is pretty easy, we have a little service in a space that we can send commands to and we dont even have to login to synapse. The guy making the real magic on the backend setup some sort of s3 buckets and that made data management a breeze. I like it, but discord user features still kick the shit out of Matrix.
Fair enough, yeah I might still dabble in trying it out if I find the time. I just hate adds and apps to a pathological degree, so if discord gets too gross I wanna know how hard it would be to jump ship lol. Thanks for the insights!