• belastend@slrpnk.net
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    2 days ago

    Didn’t know the Cambodians, Polish, Kalmyks, Kazakhs, Tatars, Ukrainians, Anarchists, Left SRs, Trotskyists and Peasants were all Nazis. Must be fun to live in that world.

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      2 days ago

      The Finns who died defending their homeland from naked, opportunistic Soviet imperialism also wish to say hi.

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          Have you ever – even once – thought that if:

          • The USSR hadn’t started the Winter War under the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact it signed on friendly terms with Nazi Germany to grab more land while the rest of Europe wasn’t in a position to help, killing and wounding tens of thousands of Finns
          • The USSR hadn’t stolen 10% of Finland’s land in exchange for what can generously be described as a “promise” of peace
          • The USSR hadn’t scuttled Finland’s attempts afterward to develop a defensive pact with Norway and Sweden
          • The USSR hadn’t invaded and absorbed the Baltic states as part of the same pact with Nazi Germany
          • The USSR hadn’t demanded mineral rights already given to the UK and then instigated riots in Finland when they didn’t get what they wanted
          • The USSR hadn’t interfered with the December 1940 Finnish election
          • The USSR had offered to return Finland’s land when it realized “oh no, the consequences of my own actions: Finland is allied militarily with Nazi Germany now.”
          • The USSR had been on friendly terms with Finland instead of giving them what every serious historian describes as no realistic opportunity not to ally with Germany

          That maybe they wouldn’t have been forced to ally with Germany in the Continuation War? That Finland might have remained neutral or even joined in with the Allies which the Soviets were a part of? You can even look in the article you’re linking to:

          As a part of the pact, Nazi SS chief Heinrich Himmler insisted that the Finns dispatch [1408] soldiers to the SS Wiking division similar to the volunteers it demanded from Nazi-occupied Belgium, Denmark, the Netherlands, Norway and elsewhere.

          Reluctantly, Finns complied and covertly recruited the first group of 400 SS volunteers to be sent for training.

          The leading Finnish military historians who undertook the probe into the country’s wartime role wrote that those Finnish troops likely witnessed shootings and other atrocities against Jews and other civilians by advancing Nazi troops.

          This was all done reluctantly. The Finns had no ideological alignment with the Nazis; it was done purely out of necessity because of the USSR’s – again – nakedly imperialist actions. You have zero intellectual integrity. None. Your rhetoric relies not on a convincing argument but on the reader’s ignorance. And I’m not even a little surprised to see you sticking up for Putin’s genocidal invasion of Ukraine elsewhere.


          Edit: Also, where the hell did “only doing it to fight communism” come from? I said the exact opposite: that they were doing it in self-defense against Soviet imperialist aggression. What?

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              21 hours ago

              >“I don’t read revisionism and lies”

              >Quoting the article you fucking linked to and didn’t read past the headline

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                21 hours ago

                your interpretation of an article and cherrypicking
                And the headline is all that matters.

                Certainly not: FINNISH military historians who undertook the probe into the country’s wartime role wrote… as if those nazi whitewashers are neutral.
                You had a swastika on your luftwaffe until 2017 FFS.
                And your BS answer undoubtedly is: but it was before Hitler used it!
                Again not interested in your revisionism, you were nazis then and still have plenty now. Awful people.
                Not so different from the Balts, at least they are proud of their nazi past and have remembrances, like the Ukros.
                Get over it and live with it

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            So you just stated that Russia was imperialistic. That in itself should give you more context about the kind of nation Russia was. Communism is a way of thought not anyone nation. Think more critically about what you say.

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              Post says: “communists killed”. Not “communism killed”. The USSR were communists. The Finns were innocent when the USSR invaded them. Communists killed tens of thousands of innocents in that invasion. The entire aim of this post is to disingenuously suggest that anytime someone brings up the innocent victims of the USSR, they’re actually defending the Nazis killed in WWII.

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                21 hours ago

                Cuba has the most educated population per land mass.

                They have free health care and post secondarily.

                A lot of well off countries dabble in communism Switzerland for example has universal income.

                Don’t sit here and pretend like it doesn’t work.

                Learn first.

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                  Cuba also has a secret police happy to lock up any opposition. Lots of Cubans want to leave the country.

                  Good education and relatively good health care is the only thing Cuba has going for it.

                  Economic development was whack for decades when they wasted the generous subsidies the Soviet Union provided. Today they keep the economy afloat with cheap oil from Venezuela and remittance sent by the diaspora.

                  To this day Cuba rations food with coupons and most people are poor.

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                  I’ve been to Cuba for work. I don’t plan on going back unless it’s for work. Dabbling is not the same as being a fully communist country. No health care is “free”.

                  Learn first.

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                    16 hours ago

                    Same.

                    The rhetoric you push is against the very policies that are considered communist. You just admitted that communist policies are used in the countries.

                    Please use your brain.

                    Plus you’re copying my word because you’re not that clever.

                    This is the power of the brain.