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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml to Socialism@lemmy.mlEnglish · 16 days ago

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml to Socialism@lemmy.mlEnglish · 16 days ago
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  • Vegafjord eo@lemmy.ml
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    I dont believe in the word civilizations. The word is made to create supremacy over tribal and samliving societies.

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      Gandhi was asked “Mr. Gandhi what do you think of Western civilization?”

      “I think it would a wonderful idea”

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      Agreed. Being civilised is an Englishy queen-and-country virtue.

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    Anti-civ people could respond that a civilisation focused on war is particularly civilised.

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      Huh?!

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        whether uncivilised people have ‘war’ is controversial; many people thi k war arose with civilisation

        For example, the book Warless Societies and the Origin of War by Kelly argues that you need civilisation to have the sort of organisation and population density for war. A counterargument is that some great apes have been observed warring.

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          Ants war too. Not saying that ants are uncivilized, but… you know…

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            https://d-place.org/parameters/SCCS1650#0/14/150 — 52 of 186 uncivilised peoples in this dataset have no war.

            There’s probably war without civilisation, but “more civilised means less war” is hard for me to accept.

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