• WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    7 days ago

    What you are proposing would start a North American war deadlier than any that has ever been seen. Everyone thought Texas was dumb for talking about secession, but now that other states don’t want to be part of the union, people act like it is a serious idea. It isn’t. Never has been.

    In the words of Ben Franklin, “we must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately.”

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      6 days ago

      I’m not American, and I think you should all secede. Just like EU is a shit and quebec should be free.

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        6 days ago

        You would have more than half the population of the country plunged into abject poverty. West Virginia would look like an apocalyptic hillbilly hellscape.

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      7 days ago

      Everyone knew Texas talking about it was dumb because they’re not self sufficient

      California actually is, and if we’re hated by the rest of the country anyway, we’ll just go ahead and leave. Let the rest states have fun paying for shit without us

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    8 days ago

    Washingtonian here, I’ve been saying this should happen for like 8 years now lmao

    The marriage isn’t working. Let it go.

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    8 days ago

    This throws under the bus the many many non republicans in places gerrymandered such that the minority can continue it’s rule. My life would probably get better, but only at their expense as more and more solvent states leave the union. I’m not willing to ‘punish’ those people for the crime of being born in a impossibly corrupt district.

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      8 days ago

      Why did democrats not stop the gerrymandering? Why are there so many laws that should not exist still there?

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    8 days ago

    I don’t think the population is as hopelessly divided as the social media spaces make it out to be, but at the same time, the federal government looks more and more unrecoverable from corporate interests and back to the people every single day. It’s probably past the point of return, excepting major societal shakeup.

    It feels like there may come a point where the states that are large enough to be countries on their own start looking into any mechanisms that would allow them separation, just to be able to run themselves without federal interference and incompetence.

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    8 days ago

    Californian here, bye Felicia. I’m fucking done with my hard earned money going towards ungrateful backwoods idiots that actively hate me, my state, and my neighbors because they’re told to by thuh teevee, yet don’t realize it. I’m done subsiding hatred for the sake of it, because “it’s the right thing to do.” I’m done being at the political whim of people that can’t spell potato. I have a lot of heart for my countrymen, but considering far too many of them hate us for reasons they don’t even understand, I don’t see the point anymore.

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    7 days ago

    I like the idea of it, but California is a cash cow and the US would never let that cash cow get away.

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    7 days ago

    No. Imagining an independent future for any state (including California and Texas) is pure cope. The states are so interdependent that attempting to secede would be ruinous for the state in question.

    The only exceptions I can think of are Alaska and Hawaii, which might be able to survive if they found another country to keep them supplied and economically connected.

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    8 days ago

    Personally, absolutely. California subsidizes so many of the red states in this country, and it sucks, because we don’t get the representation we should. We have 10% of the population, but only get 2% of the representation in the Senate.

    That being said, I am completely aware that this is Putin’s goal, and that is why there is a lot of discussion online from Russian bot accounts about this.

    It sucks when your goals align with Putin’s, because he is such a monster.

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    8 days ago

    No, not really. While I am not white, I am American through and through. I don’t really prefer to be something else. I just think we should fix what we can. Preferably while we can.

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      8 days ago

      Can’t believe you’re not downvoted. How dare you say you want to change the nation for the better and not just secede