Are all ya dumb fucks who refused to vote for Kamala happy?
Ya happy all your trans friends are about to be sent to concentration camps so you could virtue signal your pathetic hollow support for Palestine (that’s actively doing far worse under Trump than under Biden BTW)?
Hope all the death and destruction partially on your hands was worth you feeling like a special little hero for a few hours last November.
I’m trans and I didn’t vote for Kamala. Blue state, not like it even mattered. I have zero regrets about it on my part either. Since then all the liberals seem to be busy meeting the moment with capitulation and self-censorship, it’s clear they were never allies. I don’t care if I end up in a concentration camp, fuck this rancid ass country.
I’m trans and I very much care about not ending up in a concentration camp, please. (And yes I voted for Harris, but for the love of God can we take over the primaries next time, so the neoliberals are the ones holding their nose and voting?)
it would be nice if they actually decide to have primaries next time, I’m not holding out hope that elections are going to save us
I’m trans and wish you wouldn’t project your not caring onto the rest of us. It only serves to show that you probably haven’t experienced anything even remotely close to concentration camps or the related dangers. I did not happily do it with a smile on my face, but I voted for Kamala because I knew that this exact thing would happen if Trump were elected. It was incredibly obvious. Gaza is even more fucked, even more bombed, gestapo is roaming the streets, and we’re actively discussing our community potentially getting sent to concentration camps.
But you decided to not even try to prevent it. You decided that because Kamala wouldn’t completely stop the genocide in Gaza, that Gaza, immigrants, trans people, and minorities should all suffer even more.
I’m not sure how you still feel good about your protest vote (being in a blue state doesn’t excuse it, either. You do not vote in a vacuum, especially when you talk about it online). If we ever get to vote again, I really hope you make better choices and don’t get caught up on a single issue. You should be able to choose the lesser of two evils, because if Kamala were elected, we would be in a better position to make actual, valuable change for things like Gaza, trans rights, and progressive reform. Obviously, we can’t know how much better of a position, but I can guarantee we would at least not be discussing how we’re going to be sent to the camps.
I get that our community is hurting. Please don’t make it worse for us because you’re apathetic.
hi, I ended up here in the US as a result of a right wing coup in my home country. I have had relatives with first hand experience of war, civil war, famine. it’s not something I take lightly which is why I am so appalled at the Democrats treating Palestinians like they’re expendible.
We don’t have a popular vote, due to how the system is arranged my vote hasn’t once mattered in decades of electoral participation. You’re kidding yourself about the influence of the fediverse if you think my comments had any impact.
I’m apathetic about voting, I’m actually extremely active organizing in my community against this shit. I find the people scolding about votes while doing fuck-all otherwise to be the ones making it worse.
Something something both sides same.
One side, forgive student debt and invest in infrastructure.
Other side, masked agents kidnap off street, send people to concentration camps, and censor free speech.
See, both sides same.
Mocking individuals that you disagree with by reducing all of their arguments down to “both sides same” and setting up a straw man that you easily defeat is not helping anyone.
I would love to know how many people actually refused to vote for Kamala for the reasons you stated. Obviously it’s not zero, but I have seen some variation of the “are you happy now?” comment hundreds of times, and I’ve never spoken to such a protest voter in real life. Or maybe they’re everywhere and they’re too embarrassed to admit it.
Instead of pointing to gerrymandering, voter suppression and potential massive election fraud, the mass of comments like yours is starting to feel like straw manning.
My dude, look at the replies to my comments. These people are outing themselves.
Guilty conscious maybe?
Of course they would be more hush hush about their fuck up now. Who but the most imbecilic narcissists would say gleefully as minorities are being shipped end masse to concentration camps that they intentionally refused to act to stop it?
Who but the most imbecilic narcissists would say gleefully as minorities are being shipped end masse to concentration camps that they intentionally refused to act to stop it?
I can’t help that you intentionally refused to speak up against genocide.
Good thing there’s no genocide now then. Whew. Bullet avoided with Genocide Kamala. Good job bravely standing up and doing nothing.
Probably a sign of a guilty conscience.
Why is this stupidity still being repeated? God, I’m so tired of refuting it. I’m just gonna start calling you stupid and move on.
.ml, of course lol
Just like you did when you passively voted for Trump and your local GOP representatives. What a surprise!
Tell me more about your fantasy.
You’re projecting soooo hard right now lol. Thought you were just gonna call it stupid and move on though. Guess you need more cope.
I’ll take your advice though. Another .ml GOP asset blocked. Lucky me!
You literally are projecting right now. What is this, Republican logic?
You wrote shit about who I voted for with not knowing that. It was a fantasy mate. Nothing more.
I guess you also don’t know how to block people either.
Weird how they projected about you, then said you projected. And then got mad at you for what they did.
Literally all of those people are russian/chinese agitators and you got agitated.
Lesson: make an effort to not get agitated. Learn to meditate or something. You can still have convictions and even get angry, but get angry when needed, not when somebody deliberately makes you angry.
Lemmy is not really big enough yet to attract Russian trolls.
Perhaps this is a conspiracy theory, but it looks to me like Lemmy was built by Russian and/or Chinese trolls specifically to agitate people against the West. They haven’t been attracted to be here, they have been here from the start.
it was created by @dessalines@lemmy.ml maybe they’re a Russian troll? I don’t think they are, but you could ask them :)
I feel like this has to be a joke. There’s a reason Lemmy has a bad wrap for being infested with Tankies, and it starts with Dessalines.
centrists claim that anyone to the left of netanyahu is a russian troll.
Well, it was all worth it because something something “status quo” and we’d have a genocide in Gaza, or something.
The Gazan War was so cynically manipulated to votes against Harris that it makes you think if that was all planned too.
I mean… It kinda was. Netanyahu deliberately stalled peace talks because he wanted Trump in power and he knew that killing Palestinians only hurt Kamala politically, it never hurt Trump because his voters don’t give a shit.
I will always understand having grievances for the democratic party because all they do is defend the status quo - I do too - but not voting over that is just fucking stupid. You want to change that? Go to protests, vote in primaries, support local initiatives for ranked choice voting, donate to causes you find actually beneficial, support local politicians that dont just support the status quo, support movements you believe in. If its about Gaza, speak up about that, donate to humanitarian funds, etc. There are ao many things you can do that can impact these things. But refusing to vote does actually fucking nothing for that cause.
There is no world in which more people refusing to vote for Kamala would have gotten us a better president or stopped genocide in gaza. Or really had any impact in any way that wasn’t making trump more likely to win. IMO the folks that did that were doing it more for themselves so they could feel morally superior because they didnt vote for the candidate that supported genocide or the “status quo” even though it literally never would have had any impact on either of those things.
(And let’s be real - trump is way worse for Gaza than Kamala would have been. I’m sure she wouldn’t have done enough, just like Biden, but at least there are voices in that party calling out Israel. Those voices fall far more deaf on this administration’s ears)
Yep, I could not agree more. Seeing the smug and the self-righteous still proudly argle-bargling about Gaza is infuriating, if you ask me. I don’t know how many genuinely feel this way when it’s online - many could just be paid Russian stooges or bots, for all I know.
But I do know a few IRL and when it comes up, it’s hard to keep my cool. It’d be one thing if they didn’t act so goddamned morally superior about it all. I’ve noticed that all of the ones I know of IRL are not in at-risk groups, other than a few cases being women and some being not active xtians (but raised xtian), if that counts. But all of them are white, all of them are at least middle class, none are gay/trans…probably most have the means to get the fuck out of this country if they really had to, etc.
You guys still cant accept that your candidate just sucked? No? Still blaming leftists and minorities?
Actual leftists voted for the best viable option for marginalized groups, which was Kamala.
Pathetic virtue signalling asswhipes who don’t actually give a damn about marginalized groups didn’t vote or voted for a non-viable third party. An action that objectively helped the fascists win given how the Electoral College and Gerrymandering typically works.
You aren’t a leftist, you helped the fascists. Congrats, you fucked over everyone the left is supposed to care about.
So anyone who doesn’t agree with what you’re saying is virtue signaling, and anyone not behaving in accordance to your proclamations, is a fascist?
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
Anyone who didn’t vote against trump deserves the blame
I sleep like a baby knowing I cast no vote for a genocidal administration nor a fascist one.
No, really, I sleep so well.
You just enabled the FAR MORE genocidal administration to kill off not only Palestinians, but now marginalized groups at home.
You objectively helped exacerbate the current genocide and make new ones. Sleep on that.
I really admire your bold and extremely aggressive stance of “the Democrats aren’t the problem, the voters are”.
So brave and forward thinking.
It’s people like yourself who’ve made the Democratic Party what it is today, congratulations.
My only regret is that I have but two hands to pat your back with.
