What do you as a fail safe when there isnt a flake or nix package for what you need, and you don’t have the time or ability to create it?

Here’s my particular example. I need the beta version of OpenSCAD, which is only delivered as a flatpak in the beta flatpak channel, which I have tried but have been unsuccessful in doing. I havent even attempted building from source. Only the stable version is in nixpkgs. In this case, what would you do?

And in general, what do you do? Install things using a different package manager, like pip, npm, cargo, etc and manage at the user level? Do you run a VM? Docker? Let me know what your backup plan is on NixOS.

  • elltee@lemmy.oneEnglish
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    1 year ago

    I went a different route, but I might be an idiot. Had problems getting mongodb to work It’s not open source, so it’s not in the cache. My install wouldn’t compile, and it seems I’m no alone in this. I setup kvm (libvirt), installed a debian 12, and installed mongodb. It works. I don’t particularly like it this way, but it works. I’ll probably move away from Mongo eventually. Until then, I’ll just leave it as is.

  • jeffhykin@lemm.eeEnglish
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    1 year ago

    I’ll mention some things others haven’t;

    Usually, like if a python package isn’t available, you can do half-nix by using something like python venv, and install everything like normal in venv. Or for rust, you get rustup through nix, but then let rustup do its mutable work, instead of literally managing crates through nix. It’s also possible to patch a lot of stuff into a nix shell for inter-op.

    When that fails, which it does, then its

    • docker
    • Tea (author of homebrew wrote it)
    • brew/apt
  • PortugalSpaceMoon@infosec.pubMEnglish
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    1 year ago

    I think would just try to compile it from source. Using a different package manager seems very weird. I suspect getting the source to build on nixOS is more or less equivalent in terms of effort than to create a derivation. I have done so in the past and I ended up pushing them to nixpkgs. If compiling is out of the question, I guess docker but I havn’t had to do that, yet.

  • 0xCBE@infosec.pubEnglish
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    1 year ago

    You build a derivation yourself… which I never do. I am on mac so I brew install and orchestrate brew from home manager. I find it works good as a compromise.

  • ComradeKhoumrag@infosec.pubEnglish
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    1 year ago

    I haven’t really used nix, but I like what I read about it. I see a lot of critiques around it’s limited community, and therefore documentation/support

    Unfortunately, I don’t know the answer to your question. But if there’s a relevant repo for the OS, you might be doing the community a favor by asking in the GitHub repo