Would It though? I already knew that … still love it.
Do you live in a developing country where the average citizen just gained regular access to chicken, beef, and pork?
I don’t, I’m American. But I know the history of when we went thru it, and that the only reason Americans eat so much meat, is because it was a status symbol to eat meat everyday.
And that it plays a large role in why Americans are so obese. Meat is very calorie dense, and Americans tend to “fill up” on meat at every meat, and maybe eat some token sides, but they’re usually deep fried potatoes.
I’m definitely not vegan, but meat is like alcohol, in moderation there’s nothing wrong with it. But if the thought of going even a day without it causes stress…
We need to start treating it like any other addiction. With the way the gut biome interfaces with the brain, it’s really not that much of a stretch to look at like that. But it doesn’t take long on a better diet to change your gut flora and solve the meat cravings
It’s easier to stop a developing country from falling into that trap, than to pull a country out of it after they’re used to it for generations.
Nope, it’s been a staple food for ages and is part of a lot of traditional dishes.
And that it plays a large role in why Americans are so obese.
Also are you sure it’s not because of the high fructose corn syrup you put in everything?
But if the thought of going even a day without it causes stress…
Did that ever happen to anyone?
We need to start treating it like any other addiction.
Ok … now this is just getting silly, You lost me.
It’s easier to stop a developing country from falling into that trap, than to pull a country out of it after they’re used to it for generations.
I should be save then!
I breathe every day too…
Filthy addict!
Nope, it’s been a staple food for ages and is part of a lot of traditional dishes.
Then you’re not who the article is about…
So what? I still very much doubting that knowing about antibiotics resistance will dissuade people, developing countries or not.
So what?
You commented on article that’s not about your demographic, saying it doesn’t apply to you…
And you’re confused why that’s relevant?
If you saw a headline about how male penguins sit on eggs, would you reply with:
Do they tho? I’d never sit on an egg!
And then get upset when someone asked if you were a male penguin?
You can actually have knowledge about penguins egg sitting behaviour without being a penguin.
And that it plays a large role in why Americans are so obese. Meat is very calorie dense, and Americans tend to “fill up” on meat at every meat, and maybe eat some token sides, but they’re usually deep fried potatoes.
Ironically, in your own example, it’s the potatoes that are driving epidemiological levels of obesity in the United States, not the meat. Following the carbohydrate insulin model of obesity, the protein from clean sources such as beef, is not raising insulin levels is not driving adipose tissue. It’s the carbohydrates people eat with the protein, it’s the french fries, it’s the potatoes, it’s the chips, it’s the processed industrial foods which are all carbohydrate based.
Please let me introduce you to the “Carbohydrate Insulin Model of Obesity” - https://hackertalks.com/post/13737743
TLDR - You can’t have obesity without elevated insulin levels, which can’t exist (outside of a pituitary issue) without elevated carbohydrates. Does this mean carbohydrates are the sole cause of the modern plague of obesity? Not necessarily, but it does demonstrate they are a necessary part of the obesity chain, so removing them will remove obesity.
Does this mean carbohydrates are the sole cause of the modern plague of obesity? Not necessarily, but it does demonstrate they are a necessary part of the obesity chain, so removing them will remove obesity.
Starving to death will also solve obesity (and cure cancer!), but that’s probably not the solution that most people are looking for. Dr. Walter Kempner reversed severe obesity and various other ailments by putting his patients on a diet in which 90-95% of calories came from easily-digested carbohydrates. Carbohydrate consumption does not result in chronically-elevated fasting insulin in the absence of excess fat consumption. This is crucial to understanding the aetiology of type-2 diabetes in particular, but it also relates to obesity and “metabolic” illness in general.
Carbohydrate consumption does not result in chronically-elevated fasting insulin in the absence of excess fat consumption.
This is a very strong statement. Can you please share your literature on this claim? I’d love to read more about it.
Dr. Barnard’s presentation (the video link) has information regarding the insulin response to carbohydrate consumption in the presence vs absence of excess fat. It has been years since I have read the literature on which he based that presentation, but his book, Program for Reversing Diabetes (available online but which I will not link directly here for DMCA reasons), cites many different sources which you can consult.
The rice diet / potato diet / sugar diet - All based on Kempner’s work - All are very interesting, they reduce inflammation by not triggering the Randel Cycle (not a cycle) cross inhibition of inflammation. They also increase basial metabolic rates by FGF-21 protein sparing (something like 20% increase).
For some people this reduction of inflammation is enough to resolve their obesity and type 2 diabetes! The Rice diet, as I’m sure you read about, had very poor adherence rates - Kempner had something of a scandal when the corporal punishments he used to keep people on the diet were revealed.
This does not diminish the carbohydrate insulin model of obesity, both of these datapoints can exist together on the same plane of existence.
When I say elevated insulin is a necessary part of obesity, i mean that very strictly, it is necessary but not sufficient cause of obesity. There are a class of people who by reducing inflammation and increasing their base metabolic rate by 20% will sufficiently reduce their obesity… however, this doesn’t remove from the insulin model of obesity - it is a subset of it. To metabolize the fat of a obese person following kempner’s rice diet, they still get a insulin spike eating their carbohydrates, and while insulin is elevated they pause fat burning - that really doesn’t change… An Obese person following the rice diet is pausing their fat burning for 2-4 hours after every eating event, if they eat 3 times a day, that is 12 hours of no fat burning per day… can they burn enough fat in the remaining 12 hours to make a difference? Sure, why not, but its making things unnecessarily difficult.
Reasonable article, clickbait title that bears little connection to the actual content
Article is about the use of antibiotics at scale.
Big doubt. We’ve had Upton Sinclaire, everyone ignored the labor violations he detailed to get mad about how the food was made, and yet we’re just about right back to where we started. Gotta grab the problem by its roots if you want it to stay gone.
Everybody knows all that stuff. I’m not sure why people make statements like that. Maybe they were ignorant for a long time?
Get back to me when more saw-dust and/or insects find their way into it. In fact, I would rather that was the case if it could be healthier and/or better for the environment like-so. “Pink-glue” in fast food burgers? God-forbid they find a use for a meat by-product.
Basically, trying to get “carnivores” obsessed with “meat purity” or whatever is the wrong idea, on so many levels, and articles like this one read like advertisements for the status-quo versus so many better ideas.
I mean I’m well aware of it and I still enjoy it. I would like to support farmers that give their animals better conditions but I want to retire and own a house some day so these are luxuries I can’t afford.
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