• samokosik@lemmynsfw.com
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    1 year ago

    I am not aware of that fact. Are there any laws/incidents which would prohibit normal ships from leaving the area?

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      1 year ago

      laws? it’s internationally illegal, but that doesn’t matter, hence all the UN resolutions that Israel ignores.

      incidents? sure, here’s an article from a few years ago of an incident that got somewhat prominent outside the region, it’s just that no one cares if the IDF blows a few brown fishermen out of the water (hell outside the English publication of a few prominent Hebrew papers people wouldn’t even know that Netanyahu was aiding Hamas to stay in power)

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        1 year ago

        Well yes, you cannot just let a ship go to Gaza because of the possibility of bringing even more weapons there.

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          1 year ago

          dude, the import restrictions are ad hawk, nonsense and seemingly change every week, this isn’t about weapons it’s about trying to starve them out

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            1 year ago

            This is a complete nonsense. If Israel wanted, they could have starved Gaza far sooner and would not play with them for 80 years.

            In addition, we can theoretically consider Israel the biggest Gaza supporters because they give them electricity and water for free. No Arab country does that.

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              1 year ago

              it really isn’t, the only thing keeping them from going full on holocaust on the Palestinians is international pressure, because Israel exists at “the pleasure of the west” in general.

              Ironically, the only reason Gaza doesn’t have their own Power and Water production is because Israel bombed it a long time ago and refuses to let it be fixed, because the bibi government uses it as a tool to influence Gaza, hilariously to support Hamas.

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                1 year ago

                Regarding the power plant: it has 4 operational units but ran out of fuel as it was diesel powered. I have seen some information that Hamas has diesel as one of its resources but that was only reported by an Israeli media, hence it cannot be trusted.

                It is debatable whether they would go “full holocaust” on Gaza without international pressure. However, I personally know some people who would support that and also certain right-wing parties want a complete siege of Palestine. I strongly disagree with this rhetoric. On the other hand, some political subjects support negotiations.

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                  1 year ago

                  you do realize that the current ruling powers in Israel consist in part of literally anti-Muslim terrorists who have dedicated their lives, and publically call for the historic Jewish homeland (from the Euphrates to the Red Sea) to be cleansed of Muslims and retaken for the Jewish people, they literally mirror Nazi rhetoric, (and ironically call holocaust survivors that disagreed with them antisemites), and the other calling for a full on apartheid state and for territorial expansion via annexation.

                  As for the idea that the Gaza power plant would just be out of fuel, that contradicts any number of local reports from various NGOs and even the UN, and judging by the Israeli track record in the area i will believe the other sources over them.

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                    1 year ago

                    Israel is a democratic country (check democracy index) and there is a freedom of religion. 18.7% of population are Muslim, so Israel is definitely not against Islam. The comparison to Nazis is literally funny because Arab people (usually Muslims) have exactly the same rights as Jews. In addition, Israel is not an apartheid state. Some argue they perform apartheid on the Palestinian people but those under a different administration. By this logic, every state can be considered apartheid because citizens of that state have in that state more rights than non-citizens. That’s standard.

                    Mind showing any sources about the power plant? Wikipedia was reporting that all 4 generators were fine.