didn’t we all grow up needing to be secretive? is it because of the adage of how ‘everyone thinks women are hot’ so like even straight women would get turned on more by their own moaning?
like as a guy i don’t even…have the impulse to involve my voice in it at all
Except there is clearly a potential link that deserves further study to come to a conclusion? There’s more credibility backing this being a possible origin than there is to the argument “stupid horny male scientists like thinking about caveman gangbangs. Social construct, guys.”
I’d like to hear an actual counter theory that isn’t hiding behind identity politics or an emotional response. I’ve already stated that this hypothesis isn’t concrete fact, but you’re being willfully ignorant if you don’t believe there’s any merit to it.
Bro your hypothesis is “I feel like it” and your evidence is “You can’t prove it’s not true” and that’s just not how science works.
What we have is evidence (see your damn link to wikipedia) in non-human primates and the “I’m making a sound now to indicate that you should ejaculated for maximum likelihood of impregnation” is pretty solid stuff. There’s talk of encouraging fights for better mate selection. What there isn’t is talk of “I am doing a sex, please join the train being run on me” no matter how much you feel like it’s a valid theory.
Audibly encouraging fights among males literally ties into the theory. The hypothesis is that female moaning attracts nearby males, the males want to procreate, but only one male’s genetics are going to actually form a child, and it is in the species’ best interests for that child to contain the DNA of the most-likely-to-survive and procreate. It doesn’t matter whether the guys all form an orderly queue to some daily gangbang (which was absolutely NOT the case), or start fighting amongst themselves to be the only one with a chance (which includes the possibility that another had ejaculated inside her prior to this) - the purpose of her vocalizing was to encourage males in the area to compete, especially if she’s already in the middle of the act. There’s enough merit here to suggest further study into the area, especially given that neither of our theories are proven.
You seem to be fixated on an argument I’ve not made, and I may not have worded it clearly enough. I’m not suggesting that primitive human females started moaning in an attempt to initiate a gangbang because cave-dwelling women were insatiable whores or whatever. I’m suggesting that those vocalizations were a method to incite breeding competition between males in the area, and that this aids natural selection.
I’m not reading your thesis on cave woman gang bangs. Hopefully someone else will engage you on this topic further.
Eta; And lemme just say, the idea that “more evidence should be gathered” demands that you need to specify exactly how you want to gather said evidence. Which requires treating human women as animals to be studied. It’s absolutely ridiculous at best and psycho at worst.