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    11 months ago

    I understand the reasons why people aren’t vegan. I also understand the reason why slaughterhouse workers have far higher rates of violence (domestic and non-domestic). I understand why people do terrible things, people aren’t born evil. Even Nazis weren’t born with some disposition to be evil. It’s not like literally millions of Germans just had some natural predisposition to be unbelievably evil and that went away once they lost WW2.

    These are learned behaviors. I understand the reasons. They’re still not an excuse. You’re failing to do what you need to do, and just because I understand why you’re failing doesn’t mean you’re not failing.

    Maybe you don’t care, maybe you like animal abuse, maybe you know you’re doing something wrong and see yourself as a failure. No matter your own views, the mass torture/genocide is still happening, and you’re supporting it. Hopefully one day you grow enough as a person to stop.

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      I understand why people do terrible things, people aren’t born evil. Even Nazis weren’t born with some disposition to be evil. It’s

      eating culturally appropriate food is incomparable to the Nazis and you should be ashamed of the comparison

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        I love that I offended your delicate aesthetic sensibilities so much that you can’t even fathom what the point was.

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      Hopefully one day you grow enough as a person to stop.

      your guilt trip isn’t going to work here.

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        I didn’t think it would work on me either then it did. You have to actually let time pass to see if you grow. Maybe you’ll be a piece of shit your whole life, we’ll see.

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      maybe you like animal abuse, maybe you know you’re doing something wrong

      this is just a personal attack.

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      11 months ago

      This comment is straight up vegan propaganda.

      If you want to make arguments, do it. But leave emotion at the curb.

      This comment makes me want to eat MORE meat.

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        I’ve talked to literal fascists on the Internet who said the same thing, that my arguing with them “made them look into it” and they ended up “hating trans/Jews/Muslims more”.

        Just because you have an inability to correctly process information doesn’t make it my fault you’re going to continue being a piece of shit.

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      . I also understand the reason why slaughterhouse workers have far higher rates of violence (domestic and non-domestic).

      this is a non sequitur

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      the mass torture/genocide is still happening,

      animal agriculture is not torture or genocide

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        It is torture there’s no argument there. Genocide is always a weird one, people argue that what’s happening to Palestinians isn’t genocide etc.

        There are definitions of genocide that it fits, and there are ones that it won’t. If you think systemic mass killing for pleasure doesn’t fall under the definition of genocide, cool. It’s still systemic mass killing for pleasure.