• ocassionallyaduck@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Yo if you are doing COBOL systems maintenance for 90k you arent charging enough.

    That’s all this meme means. Consultants on COBOL maintenance can make 90k in a week. This is not the area where companies pinch pennies.

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      A lot of banks have bootcamps where they pick up unemployed people who might not have ever had tech experience in their life. They teach them COBOL and mainframe basics in a few months, and, if they do well, give them a shitty $60k annual job.

      Source: know someone who went to one of these bootcamps and now works for a major us bank.

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        So you’re saying you can get free training then just leave for a real paying company eh

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          I imagine they have some absurd contract that says they can’t leave for 89 years or whatever

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              And people wonder why companies dont train undergrads anymore

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                Oh, no, educated workers who don’t want to be taken advantage of and know their worth, maybe companies should value their employees if you want company loyalty.

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                  Oh no, job providers who don’t want to be taken advantage of and know their worth, maybe people should value their job providers if you want their loyalty.

                  spoiler

                  My time on Lemmy (and Reddit before) ironically make me appreciate communism less and less

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                    Won’t someone think of the Job providers?! How will they ever afford their third yacht. Damn communists.

                    ^^^this is you^^^^

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                    I code one feature for my job in a sprint and it becomes a value generator for a decade, making the companies hundreds of thousands of dollars each year.

                    Software developers create value out of thin air for companies, value that management and leadership is unable to generate.

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            There are some court cases going on right now about this type of thing. Generally, the payback is only allowed to be for the real cost of training, and only for a few years. So that 60k salary for 3 years is also the right amount to make you worth 150k anywhere else.

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        This has been going on for decades. My dad became a COBOL programmer in 1980ish after taking an aptitude test in answer to a newspaper ad. Y2K consulting was a pretty good gig.

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      My experience with Fintech and the financial sector is that they don’t care about how much, they only care about how fast.

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        They just have understanding of correct criteria of financial success, since they, eh, work with finances.