The findings by a Palestinian pollster signal more difficulties ahead for the Biden administration’s postwar vision for Gaza and raise questions about Israel’s stated goal of ending Hamas’ military and governing capabilities.

Washington has called for the West Bank-based Palestinian Authority, currently led by Abbas, to eventually assume control of Gaza and run both territories as a precursor to statehood. U.S. officials have said the PA must be revitalized, without letting on whether this would mean leadership changes.

The PA administers pockets of the Israeli-occupied West Bank and has governed Gaza until a takeover by Hamas militants in 2007. The Palestinians have not held elections since 2006 when Hamas won a parliamentary majority.

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      It’s not about ‘sides’, it’s about not believing that Hamas has done things that it is well-recorded and easily found doing.

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        a yes, bevause they have time and internetbto browser their phone all day

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                  The poll is of people in Gaza and the West Bank.

                  Israel cut their power dipshit 🙄

                  Oh, so the poll didn’t happen? Glad to see you didn’t read the fucking article, which was conducted in Gaza with in person interviews during the ‘humanitarian pause’. Business as usual for you, Queermunist, more than happy to read in your own opinions to anything you didn’t actually read. Israel didn’t cut power to the West Bank, by the way, but I know better at this point to expect anything but dribbling contrarianism from you.

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                    If they don’t have power, how are they going to be reading internet articles? 🙄 🙄 🙄

                    And they cut off fuel, which means the generators can’t run, which means power is extremely limited. Most people can’t charge their phones.

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        It’s this collapse in truth that worries me more than anything. People will simply ignore reality rather than admit that this is more complicated than good side v. bad side.

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          What’s the saying? “In war, truth is the first casualty”?

          Sadly not new, nor likely to stop anytime soon. All we can do, as outside observers, is try to champion the truth, and avoid embracing lies, regardless of whether they fit our biases or not.

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        Only found if you have an internet connection … which Gazans haven’t had regularily since Oct 7.

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          Gazans haven’t had one regularly, but the West Bank has largely maintained service, and has a considerably higher level of support for Hamas.

          I don’t think ‘lack of access to information’ is the issue here.

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            And the West Bank isn’t Gaza, is it?

            Please stop trying to justify the unjustifiable.

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              … the West Bank was polled here along with Gaza.

              What am I trying to justify?

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                Thinking that Palestinians in the West Bank should somehow override how Gazans polled, ofc without Gazans having stable access to the internet.

                The West Bank Palestinians are pissed at the Zionists for burning down their homes and taking property that isn’t theirs to take. Colonialism at its finest right there.

                Gazans are dying by the thousands, and since 50% of the Gazan population was children (prior to Oct 7) Israel/IDF practiced child slaughter.

                Oh, and here’s a tidbit from the poll you obviously missed … nonetheless, the majority of the Palestinians remains unsupportive of Hamas.

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                  Thinking that Palestinians in the West Bank should somehow override how Gazans polled, ofc without Gazans having stable access to the internet.

                  The… the poll that you posted and that I am citing is a poll of both Gazans and West Bank residents. It’s not ‘overriding’ anything.

                  The West Bank Palestinians are pissed at the Zionists for burning down their homes and taking property that isn’t theirs to take. Colonialism at its finest right there.

                  Gazans are dying by the thousands, and since 50% of the Gazan population was children (prior to Oct 7) Israel/IDF practiced child slaughter.

                  Oh, and here’s a tidbit from the poll you obviously missed … nonetheless, the majority of the Palestinians remains unsupportive of Hamas.

                  … what does any of that have to do with me expressing horror at the denial of Hamas’s war crimes? Where have I expressed the least support for Israel in this conflict? Where have I denied Israeli colonialism, ethnic cleansing, and attempts at genocide?

                  Where? Because it’s really looking like I’m not being responded to, but an imaginary version of an Israel supporter that has zero relevance to the comments I’m actually making.

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                    … what does any of that have to do with me expressing horror at the denial of Hamas’s war crimes?

                    And again how in the fuck would they know about the war crimes when they haven’t had reliable, steady access to the internet?

                    You seem to think they should know by osmosis.