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    11 months ago

    We should treat them like any other instance. If they are a good citizen of the Fediverse they stay, otherwise they will be blocked and nothing has changed.

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      11 months ago

      If they are a good citizen of the Fediverse

      They haven’t been a good citizen of the internet, why would you even give them a chance?

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        The only explanation for someone getting back in line to get kicked in the balls for the 15th time in the row is the must really like getting kicked in the balls

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      Mastodon users can already block entire domains. Unless it’s legally required, there’s hardly a reason why the admins would need to take the decision away from the users.

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        The whole point is that instance owners/admin are allowed to run their instance however they want

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          The whole point is that instance owners/admin are allowed to run their instance however they want

          Absolutely. My comment wasn’t about mandating an all open policy to all instance admins. Just saying that they don’t have to make such decisions for their users. It’s different on Lemmy where per user instance blocking will only come in the next release, so for now Lemmy admins kinda have to make such decisions on the behalf of users as well.

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        I agree. Everyone should be able to decide for themselves. My only concern is that Fediverse servers will suddenly become expensive to host because of the Threads traffic. But this would also happen with many users on many smaller instances and is not specific to Threads.

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          Servers pull content based on subscriptions (follows). Meta can’t push content into the Fediverse.

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            No ActivityPub is explicitly push-based. If you follow someone on a remote server, the remote server pushes their posts to your server. Meta can push content into the fediverse, but like any other user/server they can be blocked if its spammy

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              I think we’re talking about two different things. I’m saying that servers ultimately choose what they receive. People worry that Meta will flood Mastodon with unwanted content but content has to be invited in. Although it’s more accurate to say that users have to be invited in, like vampires, to serve content. People seem worried that federating means inviting in all the vampires.

              When users on server A follow a single user on server B, it doesn’t matter if server B has one user or ten billion, server A receives content from one user. The only way to receive all content from a server is to have at least one person following every user on the remote server.

              So Meta can’t flood Mastodon with unwanted content because you only receive content from users you explicitly ask to receive it from. You aren’t connected to the firehose when you federate with their instance.

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            I think the point is too many users following threads users as is it more likely to find a friend there than on Fediverse for example. Which will require more compute resources and storage

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          If the admin decides not to block them it’s the users’ decision. And users can choose not to use instances who block Threads.